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BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 6 Nov 2008 15:28

Hi Jan,

Who registered the birth, was it Antonia?

She wouldn't have to be married to Mr Hughes, put maybe she just pulled that name out of the hat??

Dee x

Janet

Janet Report 6 Nov 2008 15:27

Samspade, there is a record on FreeBMD of marriage between Antonia Pilarski and George Power, March 1880 Leeds.

So perhaps Arthur Alfred and Antonia weren't married, though she put herself as such on the birth certificate, then she took her son away with George Power and married him.

Jan

CLW2005

CLW2005 Report 6 Nov 2008 15:27

but the child was born in 1873 and the George/Antonia marriage was in 1880?????????

how does that work then???

Christine x

Samspade

Samspade Report 6 Nov 2008 15:24

So Antonia and Arthur had a bit of a fling she found herself pregnant and had to own up to husband George to save face he said Arthur's surname was Power.

Janet

Janet Report 6 Nov 2008 15:19

Arthur L (Leopold) Hughes was the son of Arthur Alfred Hughes (photographer) and Antonia formerly Pilarski.

You know what these actresses are like. Perhaps she pruned years off her age too.

The lovely thing is that my late mother in law was terribly straight laced. This would really have annoyed her. Great, I am having fun.

So it seems as if Rebecca, etc., are connections after all.

Jan

CLW2005

CLW2005 Report 6 Nov 2008 15:18

Name: George Power
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Antonice
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool

Civil Parish: Marlebone
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 6 Charlton St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Actor

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: All Souls
ED, institution, or vessel: 12a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Antonice Power 24
Artil Power 6
George Power 25

interestingly, George and Antonia in 1881 have a son which on the image could be read as Arthur!!

Christine

Samspade

Samspade Report 6 Nov 2008 15:15

That Arthur L Hughes was a comedian not a photographer.Although there are two Photographic Artists staying there too.

hehe maybe she had a ding dong with roger the lodger.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 6 Nov 2008 15:14

1881 England Census
about George Power
Name: George Power
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Antonice
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool

Civil Parish: Marlebone
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 6 Charlton St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Actor

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: All Souls
ED, institution, or vessel: 12a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Antonice Power 24
Artil Power 6 (Marylebone, Middlesex, England)
George Power 25


Janet

Janet Report 6 Nov 2008 15:11

This is getting even more interesting.

A friend is also helping me in this search, and when I told her I'd found Antonia with George Power, she had a look at the record, and found Arthur L Hughes at the same lodgings.

Now I've got to try and work out the significance of that.

Jan

Samspade

Samspade Report 6 Nov 2008 15:08

Births Jun 1854
PILARSKI Antonia Pinfield St Pancras 1b 92

If this one married George Power then why didn't she put her middle name?
Born 1854 says 1865 on 1881 census that's a big leap

Thelma

Thelma Report 6 Nov 2008 15:07

marriage
Antonia Pilarski 1880 Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West Riding
View Record
George Power 1880
1891
Antonia Power abt 1865 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Visitor Blackburn, Lancashire

George Power abt 1858 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Visitor Blackburn, Lancashire

Janet

Janet Report 6 Nov 2008 15:04

Jim, that's interesting about Antonia Pinfield, as Antonia isn't a very common name for British born girls. However, as I've said above, I don't think Antonia Pinfield Pilarski born in St Pancrs in 1854 can be the right one, because of her marriage to George Power.

I'm going crazy here.

Jan

Janet

Janet Report 6 Nov 2008 15:01

Thanks Jean, that is the birth certificate I received this morning, which gave me his mother's name.

Jan

Janet

Janet Report 6 Nov 2008 15:00

Samspade, thanks for that, I've been trying to find a photographer but must have missed that one, though I had been looking at Alfred Hughes too.

In Arthur Leopold Hughes' marriage cert in 1901, Arthur Alfred is described as Secretary to the Maharajah of Madras, but deceased.

Perhaps they were lodging at a pub when Arthur Leopold was born, though they gave the same address when the birth was registered on 15th March.

Jan

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 6 Nov 2008 14:59


Name: Arthur Leopold Hughes
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Marylebone (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 492 (click to

Thelma

Thelma Report 6 Nov 2008 14:58

1861 England Census
about Antonia P Pinfield
Name: Antonia P Pinfield
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Pancras, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Somers Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 113
Household Members: Name Age
James W Holmes 13
Antonia P Pinfield 6
Eliza Pinfield 30
Emma Pinfield 24
Mary Pinfield 80
Stephen Sreredy 2




Samspade

Samspade Report 6 Nov 2008 14:57

The address didn't help it seems to be a pub in 1871 run buy George Denton.

Janet

Janet Report 6 Nov 2008 14:56

Jean, I've had to discount the one with Rebecca Penfield, as she married George Powers in Leeds.

Jan

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 6 Nov 2008 14:56

last one born 1854

Janet

Janet Report 6 Nov 2008 14:55

Thanks Jean, but she can't have been born in 1891 if her son was born in 1873. I've picked up various other Pilarskis from different sites, but not one that looks right for my purposes.

Jan