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Diane

Diane Report 20 Nov 2008 01:10

Can see it now. I was hoping it was abbr of Joshua
I wonder if Joshua might have used his middle name and maybe kept Joshua for Sunday best or when he was in trouble.
Diane
Ps or just never existed in the first place

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 20 Nov 2008 01:05

It looks like Ja. Jas is shorthand for James. The S could be obscured by the Y from Betty above.

Rose

Diane

Diane Report 20 Nov 2008 01:00

I,m sure thats the right Ellen. She did have an illegitimate son called Richard.
Can you make out the first name of he Stott person I can,t make head nor tail of the writing.
Just for info Ellens father was a bricklayer
Diane.
Ps she was born c1840

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 20 Nov 2008 00:55

She's the one in Castleton in 1861 and 1871?

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 20 Nov 2008 00:53

Hang on,

Not sure I have the correct Ellen. Can you list her age?

Rose

Diane

Diane Report 20 Nov 2008 00:51

Off to ancestry to have a look
Thanks all
Diane

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 20 Nov 2008 00:49

Diane,

Have you seen the 1861 image? There's what looks like a Stott a few doors up who is a brickie. Been transcribed as Holt.

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 20 Nov 2008 00:48

Ozibird,

According to LancsBMD, that one married Alice.

Rose

Diane

Diane Report 20 Nov 2008 00:45

Hi Rose
Sorry just texted my sister he was a bricklayer
Diane

Diane

Diane Report 20 Nov 2008 00:40

He was a mule spinner. Does that sound right I,ve left all my paperwork at my sisters so she could have a go
Diane

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 20 Nov 2008 00:38

Do you have an occuption for Joshua?

Rose

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 20 Nov 2008 00:36

Do you think one of them has a wrong page no?

Marriages Sep 1863
Collinge Richard Rochdale 8e 93
Lord Ann Rochdale 8e 93
>>>>Stott Joseph Rochdale 8e 93
WHITWORTH Alice Rochdale 8e 93


Update - sorry, wrong first name.

Diane

Diane Report 20 Nov 2008 00:35

Hi Rose
She can,t be the right one. Ellen was married to James entwisle at that time. She was widowed again by 1901 calling herself Stott again and living in Salford
Thanks
Diane

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 20 Nov 2008 00:13

This Ellen married John Greenwood:

Marriages Sep 1890
Cropper Ellen Rochdale 8e 55
Greenwood John Rochdale 8e 55

Rose

Diane

Diane Report 19 Nov 2008 23:26

No It would be Ellen Cropper
I,ve tried Crapper crippen all sorts of variations without any luck
Thanks for trying for me
Diane

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 19 Nov 2008 23:24

And the trouble is that Stott and Cropper could be mistranscribed into a variety of weird and wonderful things.

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 19 Nov 2008 23:23

I've tried Ellen and Joshua marriages between 1861 and 1871 with no joy. Trouble is there are several ways of spelling Ellen which doesn't help.

I did come across an Ellen Stott marrying a Joshua someone but I don't see that can be anything more than a coincidence ...

Diane

Diane Report 19 Nov 2008 23:22

She,s driving me mad. She had one child adopted then left her youngest child with her adopted out daughter. I would love to know her story. I think she probably had a hard life
Diane

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 19 Nov 2008 23:18

That's a nuisance Diana ... back to the drawing board.

Diane

Diane Report 19 Nov 2008 23:16

I have looked on ancestry to see if the missing person that Jill indicated was a Stott but unfortunately there are no Joshuas or any other Stott with that gro number