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Ancestry has Anthony's marriage to Mary

The image (which is upside down!) is stamped S Paul, Covent Garden ...... which is what the submitted entries on familysearch say. But the index on Pallot's on ancestry says Kingsdown, Kent


Name: Anth Dive
Comment: Kingsdown, Kent
Spouse: Mary Wells
Marriage Date: 1818
PARISH: S Paul



Ah, now I understand ............ it also says Kingsdown, Kent on the image, but I think it is referring to Anthony's place of residence




Now if I coauld only find a marriage to Harriet!!!




sylvia

Anthony and Mary in 1851???


1851 Census

Name: Anthony P Dice <<<<< Dive on image
Age: 78
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1773
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Rainham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Rochester St Margaret
County/Island: Kent

Registration district: Medway
Sub registration district: Rochester

Anthony P Dice 78 Formerly xxxxx (???farmer???)
Charlton Dice 19 b.ca 1832, Tunbridge, Builders Clerk
Ellen W Dice 2 <<<< image says 24 (?? .... last number obscured by large black mark), b, Tunbridge, Governess
Mary Dice 58 b.c 1793, T Malling, Kent

Address:- Borstal (??? Bristol) Road




Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... I wonder if I found the rigth one in 1841?????


sylvia

OK


there needs to be a correction to the 1841 record

Charlton Deve (Dive on the image) has been added to the household next door to where Anthony was a Publican!!

1841

Name: Charlton Deve
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Chatham
Hundred: Chatham and Gillingham
County/Island: Kent

Registration district: Medway
Sub registration district: Gillingham
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charlton Deve 9




sylvia

Ellen in 1841


1841 Census

Name: Ellen Dive
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Tonbridge
Hundred: Tonbridge Lowey
County/Island: Kent

Registration district: Tonbridge
Sub registration district: Tonbridge

Sarah Brisenden 55 School Mistress
Jane Simmons 40 School Mistress
Elizabeth Coomber 16
Catherine Coomber 12
Ellen Dive 15 Pupil
Elizabeth Dive 15 <<<<< looks more like Davis on image
Georgiana Beeslingfield 13
Elizabeth Rogers 11
Catherine Wihlvell 10
Elizabeth Perkins 16
Jane Guert 17
Emma Belfour 15
Mary Robillard 15
Caroline Langford 13
Caroline Smith 14
Sarah Boorman 16
Fanny Boorman 14
Sarah Barton 10
Ann Porter 10
Mary Monkton 15

Address:- Dry (or Day) Hill, Tonbridge



Even if it is Elizabeth Dive not Davis, Ellen and Elizabeth are probably not twins!! Remember that the ages of people over the age of about 15 were rounded down to the nearest 5 on the 1841 Census



sylvia

from baptism records on ancestry


Name: Charlton Dive
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 2 Dec 1831
Christening Place: Tonbridge, Kent, England
Father's Name: Anthony Philip Dive
Mother's Name: Mary



sylvia

christening records 1530 to 1906 on ancestry


Charlton Dive 2 Dec 1831 Tonbridge, Kent, England

Edward John Dive 24 Feb 1828 Tonbridge, Kent, England

Elizabeth Dive 29 Apr 1814 Kingsdown (Near Dartford), Kent, England

Ellen Wells Dive 25 Aug 1826 Tonbridge, Kent, England

Harriet Dive 8 Dec 1811 Kingsdown (Near Dartford), Kent, England

Martha Dive 26 Mar 1820 Kingsdown (Near Dartford), Kent, England

Mary Parfect Dive 19 Oct 1813 Kingsdown (Near Dartford), Kent, England

Philip Dive 13 Jun 1824 Kingsdown (Near Dartford), Kent, England

Sibylla Dive 12 Sep 1822 Kingsdown (Near Dartford), Kent, England


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Name: Edward John Dive
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 24 Feb 1828
Christening Place: Tonbridge, Kent, England
Father's Name: Anthony Philip Dive
Mother's Name: Mary


Name: Elizabeth Dive
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 29 Apr 1814
Christening Place: Kingsdown (Near Dartford), Kent, England
Father's Name: Anthony Philip Dive


Name: Ellen Wells Dive
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 25 Aug 1826
Christening Place: Tonbridge, Kent, England
Father's Name: Anthony Philip Dive
Mother's Name: Mary


Name: Harriet Dive
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 8 Dec 1811
Christening Place: Kingsdown (Near Dartford), Kent, England
Father's Name: Phillip Dive
Mother's Name: Harriet


Name: Martha Dive
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 26 Mar 1820
Christening Place: Kingsdown (Near Dartford), Kent, England
Father's Name: Anthony Philip Dive
Mother's Name: Mary


Name: Mary Parfect Dive
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 19 Oct 1813
Christening Place: Kingsdown (Near Dartford), Kent, England
Father's Name: Anthony Philip Dive
Mother's Name: Harriet


Name: Philip Dive
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 13 Jun 1824
Christening Place: Kingsdown (Near Dartford), Kent, England
Father's Name: Anthony Philip Dive
Mother's Name: Mary


Name: Sibylla Dive
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 12 Sep 1822
Christening Place: Kingsdown (Near Dartford), Kent, England
Father's Name: Anthony Philip Dive
Mother's Name: Mary




That seems to be all the children!!!!


Not sure if you have this, or if you want all this information!!!!



sylvia

This just has to be a brother of Anthony Philip, and possibly the reason for Mary's second name


Name: Parfect Dive
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 4 Aug 1775
Christening Place: Rainham, Kent, England
Father's Name: Anthony Dive
Mother's Name: Elizabeth



sylvia

Possible other siblings of Anthony Philip .... parents of both are Anthony and Elizabeth



Name: John Fryer Dive
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 3 May 1774
Christening Place: Rainham, Kent, England
Father's Name: Anthony Dive
Mother's Name: Elizabeth



Name: Mary Dive
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 25 Apr 1777
Christening Place: Rainham, Kent, England
Father's Name: Anthony Dive
Mother's Name: Elizabeth





sylvia

Gosh Sylvia,

You are brilliant !!

I'm up late just following your information.
Karen is so lucky.........

Hi Marilyn

Thank you!!


it just seems to be my lucky day for finding information .................... and Karen's!!


I've probably found far more than she wants ..... and not found too much of what she did (the Australian emigration for example!!).



sylvia

Hi Karen.

The entry you saw on Ancestry for a Mr. P Dive could be this one.

Mr P Dive
Port of Departure --Brisbane
Port of Arrival--Sydney

Voyage Arrival Date 13/8/1900
Vessel --Moonoowarra

Childrens births listed on N.S.W index.

V185597 124/1855... DIVE ELIZA E C.. PHILIP JANE M
2666/1856.......... DIVE PHILIP.... PHILIP JANE M ST LEONARDS
V1857125 124/1857.. DIVE FANNY A... PHILIP JANE M
3907/1858.......... DIVE FANNY M... PHILIP JANE M ST LEONARDS
4104/1860.......... DIVE LINDA J... PHILIP JANE ST LEONARDS
3930/1862.......... DIVE EMILY K... PHILIP JANE M ST LEONARDS
1428/1865.......... DIVE EDWARD V.. PHILIP JANE M SYDNEY

Infant Death N.S.W.
1526/1856 DIVE PHILIP PHILIP JANE M ST LEONARDS

Tony

Hi Sylvia, Tony and Colin,

Thank you so much for all your help. As Marilyn said, I'm really lucky that Philip's life was so well documented and that there are people such as yourselves able to help access records I can't.

So to summarise...
Son Philip 1848 Brixton, Surrey, was son of Philip Anthony c1824 Kingsdown, Kent, who was son of Anthony Philip c1772 Rainham, Kent, who was son of Anthony and Elizabeth

And to think I started on the weekend with Hamilton J Dive born 1914!

There are very few Dives and they all seemed to be connected. Dives in England tend to be connected to William the Conquerer and Dyves in Scandinavia, so I've been told. My ultimate aim is to trace Anthony Dive back to a connection with my own branch of the Dives that I have going back to about 1600 in Kent. And I wish to try and connect the other Dives found in the Census' and BMD indexes. Before setting up residence in Kent I believe the Dives hailed from Bedfordshire and would eventually like to find the connection between the Kent Dives and Bedfordshire Dives/Dyves.

Many Dives seem to be back and forth from Australia and Canada and I have found relatives all over the world. The address Tony gave me for the Australian BDM is such a great help and I can now verify some of the details given to me from other researchers.

I know numbers don't mean much, but my tree of 170 that I started with in June, of immediate family has exploded, with several hours of research each day, to 5000. Each person having as much of their life in detail as I can find, births, marriages, deaths, travel records, military records, wills, etc. But I have been lucky in that many branches of my ancestry have been well researched for many years by distant relatives and in many cases I've only had to verify others research with my own. Now I've taken on a whole load of new research which is developing into a kind of One Name Study! Which was not at all intentional considering 6 or 7 months ago I didn't know anything beyond my great grandparents!!

Thank you again for all the help I have been given. I have a lot more research ahead and am very grateful to all those who answer my cries for help! You are very kind and generous people.

Karen

Karen


you are very welcome to any help that I could give you!



sylvia