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Many thanks, Tony.

Those site addresses are great!

Karen

Hi Karen.
There appears to be a marriage 1855 in N.S.W of a Philip Dive.

V18551517 73B/1855 DIVE PHILIP spouse: JOBSON JANE M

You can check BDM's for the state of N.S.W on-line.
See "Family History:
See "Search Historical Index:
See: Search

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/


You can search in coming Shipping records at this link for N.S.W
See State Archives
See Indexs on line
See Immigration and Shipping.

http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/

also
http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/


Cheers. Tony ( Australia )

Sylvia, that's great. So Philip jnr was likely an only child and his father ran away after his mother's death, leaving Philip jnr with his dead wife's mother.

Right, so I'm going to need a travel record for the early 1850's from England to Oz, though I'm not sure you can get records that far back? And Helen found him working as a Clerk in Sydney in 1867.

Any ideas of how I can find out if he remarried in Oz?

Many thanks for all the help.

Karen

Could this be the reason why Philip Sr went to Oz and left his son behind?????


from freebmd.org.uk


Deaths Sep 1850 (>99%)

DIVE Selina N Aylesford 5 283



N. Aylesford is in Kent




sylvia

and in 1871

1871 Census

Name: Phillip Dire
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Gender: Male
Where born: Brixton, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London

Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Kentish Town

Morgan Byfield 52
Morgan Byfield 16
Thomas Byfield 51
Phillip Dire 22 Lodger, Clerk Ry. C. House
Anne Field 70
Simpson 75


Address:- 142 Prince of Wales Road






So it looks as though young Phil(l)ip did not go to Australia with his father, unless it was for a very brief period of time




sylvia

and young Philip in 1861


His grandmother Mary Ann Watts lived just a couple of doors away rom this address .... and the image shows that Phulip was first written in there (as grandson), and the entry for himw as then crossed out, and he is down as a visitor at this address


1861 Census

Name: Philip Dise <<<<< Dive on the image
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Brixton, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Frindsbury
County/Island: Kent

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Strood
Philip Dise 12
Sarah Young 51

Address:- Wainscott



sylvia

Hi Karen

There is a Philip Dive listed in the 1867 OFFICIAL POST OFFICE DIRECTORY OF NEW SOUTH WALES

Philip Dive , clerk, Sydney

bye Helen

p.s. a possible death?

2599/1902 DIVE PHILIP A PHILIP PADDINGTON

Here is Philip and Selina's marriage registration, from www.freebmd.org.uk

Marriages Dec 1846 (>99%)

Dive Philip London 2 194
Watts Selina London 2 194




sylvia

the son Philip Dive was born in the UK


According to the 1891 Census, he was born ca 1850, Brixton, Surrey.

I then found this one ......... the image does say Dive


1851 Census

Name: Philip Dioe <<<<< Dive on image
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Brixton, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Frindsbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester
County/Island: Kent

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Northfleet

Philip Dioe 2
Adelaide Watts 21
Alanot Watts 16
Edwin Watts 20
Mary Ann Watts 45 b.ca 1806, Camberwell, Surrey




sylvia

Many thanks, Cassidy. That's a great help.

Can you pls tell me what the Sands Directory is?

Anthony Philip Dive was christened on the 21st October 1772,Rainham,Kent.
Parent's were Anthony and Elizabeth.

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Hi Everyone,

I'm researching Philip Dive and his wife Selina Watts. I have their marriage in London in 1846. I can't find anything for Philip after this. Philip was born in England c1818 +/-8years and apparently was the son of Anthony Philip Dive. The IGI has a submitted record saying Philip died in Australia and his son, also Philip appears to be in England since about 1873, as he married here.

Can anyone please help me fill in the gaps? Did Philip go to Australia with his wife and die there. Was his son, Philip, his only child? When did Philip jnr return, if he ever went at all?

Any help very much appreciated. Karen