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I need to find the siblings of George Turner. He was born on 5th July 1898 at Massey's Square, Burslem, Stoke-on-Trent

His parents were Joseph Turner and Eliza Slack. They were born 2/10/1868 and 24/04/1868 respectively. They got married on 15/08/1887 and died 5/02/1947 and 5/10/1920 respectively.

Thanks

Nicola

Nudge!

Catherine and Christine,

I received my grandparents marriage cert today! It states that my grandfather's (Albert Turner) father was named George Turner and my grandmother's (Ethel Camm) father was named Solomon; which I already knew.

George was a miner and Solomon was a policeman. The witnesses were Arthur Turner who is believed to be my grandfather's brother and a woman named Lilian Ingram, who my mum seems to think is/was married to my grandmother's brother.

Having now got the certificate, I still don't know what my grandad's mother's name is!

How do I go about finding that now?

Nicola

No problem, love doing census look ups.
Lets hope that it's all the correct ones and the marriage cert will help us move on for the Turner family.

When you get the cert. could you post onto this thread all the info that's on it , ages, names including the names of the witnesses as they are sometimes family members.
Hope it doesn't take too long to arrive!!!!

You're welcome Nicola, I didn't contribute much.

Well done Catherine for all your work.

Christine

Hi Christine and Catherine,

I have just ordered my grandparents marriage certificate so hopefully that will give me a little more information that I need.

In te mean time I want to say thanks again and I'll be in touch shortly when it arrives in the post!

Many thanks,

Nicola Turner

Christening for Robert Camm:-
ROBERT CAMM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 02 JAN 1831 Halifax, Yorkshire, England
Father: DAVID CAMM
Mother: BETTY

other children:-
1. THOMAS CAMM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 15 SEP 1833 Halifax, Yorkshire, England
3. MARIA CAMM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 04 APR 1824 Sowerby Near Halifax, Yorkshire, England
4. MARY ANNE CAMM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 12 MAR 1826 Sowerby Near Halifax, Yorkshire, England
5. SUSY CAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 01 JUN 1828 Sowerby Near Halifax, Yorkshire, England



Possible marriage for David and Betty:-
DAVID CAMM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 06 APR 1823 Elland, Yorkshire, England
Spouse: ELIZABETH SUTCLIFFE

Death for Betty Camm:-
Deaths Sep 1845 (92%)
CAMM Betty Halifax 22 147


and second marriage for David Camm to Mary:-

Marriages Dec 1846 (>99%)
Bairstow John Halifax 22 194
<<<<<Camm David Halifax 22 194
Croft Ann Halifax 22 194
Garbutt James Halifax 22 194
Platt[ys] Eliza Halifax 22 194
Standeven William Halifax 22 194
Standiven William Halifax 22 194
Thwaite Sarah Halifax 22 194
<<<<<Whiteley Mary Halifax 22 194

Possible marriage for Robert and Elizabeth, only one I could find between 1851 and 1853:-

Marriages Jun 1851 (>99%)
Beswick John Macclesfield 19 125
Brown Jabez Macclesfield 19 125
<<<<Camm Robert Macclesfield 19 125
Cotterill Louisa Macclesfield 19 125
Finney Mary Ann Macclesfield 19 125
Heald Thomas Macclesfield 19 125
<<<<Hughes Elizabeth Macclesfield 19 125
<<<<Steeples Elizabeth Macclesfield 19 125

Births Jun 1852 (99%)
Camm Henry Sutcliffe Congleton 8a 271

Robert Camm in 1841:-
Name: Robert Camm
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Birstall
Hundred: Morley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub registration district: Liversedge
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
David Camm 35 (occupation: Cotton ?)
Betty Camm 35 - born: Yorkshire
Mary Camm 14
Susey Camm 12
Robert Camm 9
Thomas Camm 7

Robert Camm in 1851:-

Name: Robert Camm
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Son
Father's Name: David
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Halifax, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Congleton
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address: Astbury Street

Occupation: Spinner

Registration district: Congleton
Sub registration district: Church Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 6k
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
David Camm 49 - born: Halifax, Yorkshire
(occupation: Clogger)
Mary Camm 43 - born: Halifax, Yorkshire
Robert Camm 21
Susey Camm 23 - born: Halifax, Yorkshire
Thomas Camm 17 - born: Halifax, Yorkshire

Henry in 1861:-
Name: Henry Lutleff Camm
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Congleton, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Congleton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Congleton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address: Duke Street

Registration district: Congleton
Sub registration district: Congleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 128
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Camm 30 - born: Weathbery, Yorkshire
(occupation: Clogger)
Elizabeth Camm 29 - born: Congleton, Cheshire
(occupation: Horse Keeper)
Henry Lutleff Camm 8
Robert Wm Camm 7 - born: Congleton, Cheshire
Emily Camm 4 - born: Congleton, Cheshire
John Sampy 15 - Apprentice

Henry Sutcliffe Cammin 1871:-

ame: Henry Sutchiffe Cann
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Gender: Male
Where born: Congleton, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Wedgewood
Ecclesiastical parish: Newchapel
Town: Brindley Ford
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: Brindley Ford

Occupation: Iron Worker

Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub registration district: Tunstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 116
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Cann 40 - born: Wheatley, Yorkshire
(occupation: Blacksmith) - Widow
Henry Sutchiffe Cann 18
Robert William Cann 17 - born: Congleton, Cheshire
Emily Cann 14 - born: Congleton, Cheshire
Dean Sutchiffe Cann 9 - born: Congleton, Cheshire

1881:-
Name: Henry Carman
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline
Gender: Male
Where born: Congleton, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Biddulph
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: Cinderhill Terrace Childerplay
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Moulder In Iron Foundry

Registration district: Congleton
Sub registration district: Congleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Carman 28
Caroline Carman 27 - born: Tunstall
James Hy. Carman 7 - born: Brindley Ford
Alexander Carman 3 - born: Brindley Ford
Arthur Carman 1 - born: Brindley Ford

Have checked the original record and name is Camm:-
1891
Name: Solomon Cannon
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry Sutcliffe
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Male
Where born: Kidsgrove, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Wolstanton
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Oxford
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub registration district: Tunstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Sutcliffe Cannon 39 - born: Congleton, Staffordshire
(occupation: Moulder - earth)
Caroline Cannon 37 - born: Tunstall, Staffordshire
James Heny Cannon 17 - born: Blackbull, Staffordshire
Alexander Cannon 13 - born: Blackbull, Staffordshire
Arthur Cannon 11 - born: Blackbull, Staffordshire
Mary Annie Cannon 8 - born: Blackbull, Staffordshire
Solomon Cannon 4
Martha Cannon 6 - born: New Mills, Derbyshire
Edgar Cannon 1 - born: Oxford, Staffordshire

Well done Christine, I was going to have a look for that today, so you've saved me a job.
Not a lot can be done on the Turner side until you get the cert. which will also confirm, or not, the info on the Camm side.
In the meantime I'll look for the other census records for the Camm family, which you can hold on file until you have confirmation.

Here it is

Q3 1946

Ethel Camm/ Turner
Crewe 10a 569

You can order the cert online at

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

You have to register first.

When ordering tick the box for vol and page no known and use the ref no I have quoted and the district, Crewe.

Only use the above site, they cost £7 from them, some other sites charge a lot more.

Will look in agian tomorrow, off to bed now.

Christine

Hi Christine,

My grandparents roughly got married in 1946 as my nana was pregnant at the time with my auntie who is due to turn 62 next year.

It's there abouts anyway!

Just got back online and see a lot has been found on the Camm family.

If you want to be sure of Alfred's parents you do need the marriage cert.

As I said in an earlier post we need a rough idea of when they married as there is no easy way of searching after about 1925 .

The birth year of your father's eldest sibling would be useful.

Christine

Hello,

Made such a remarkable lot of discoveries if it turns out they all are all true, which I feel they are due to how close the dates are and how many similar findings I'm finding!!!

Solomon born in 1912 is my nanas brother and Solomon born in 1887 is her father. Henry and Caroline, who you found earlier are my nana's grandparents and their children are my nana's aunts and uncles I believe.

However, I'm struggling to fit their dates and places of birth together at the moment. This may be due to the fact that I'm tired so may well have to come back to it tomorrow.

Can't believe how much progress I have made though and want to thank you so much for your continued help and interest!

Speak soon, Nicola