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Yes this is the correct marriage and 1901 census. Elizabeth and Cecilia were staying with her mother in Fulham before she set sail to NY. So Fulham must have been where she married.

On Ancestry.com I have found an entry on a one world tree. It could be Cecilia.

It records a Penelope Cecilia Ross b1929c in England, d1978 New York married to a Jack Mateycik c1920c Czechoslovakia, d1960 New York.

Marriage WFT Est 1941-1957....I dont know what this means.

They have a living desendant, a female, name not stated. (Iknow that Cecilia had a daughter, possibly called Theresa).

As far as I can see there are no contact details for the person that has submitted this.

How do I verify if this is my Cecilia?

My Cecilia had a middle initial Cecilia P Ross,

1901 Scotland Census
about Elizabeth Foster
Name: Elizabeth Foster
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relationship: Daughter
Mother's Name: Cecilia <<<<<<<<<<
Gender: Female
Where born: Greenock, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 564/2
Registration district: Greenock West
Civil Parish: Greenock West
Town: Greenock
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 47 Crawford Street
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 153
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1901_196
Household Members: Name Age
Cecilia Foster 39
Robert Foster 13
Pheobe Foster 8
Henrietta Foster 6
Elizabeth Foster 2

marriage??
Elizabeth F Foster
Year of Registration: 1927
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's Surname: Ross
District: Fulham
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 947

Jack A Ross

NY Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: John Alexander Ross
Arrival Date: 2 Sep 1923
Birth Year: abt 1896
Age: 27
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Ship Name: California
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: Scotland
Line: 16
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_3362
Birth Location: Scotland
Birth Location Other: Greenock
Page Number: 96

Married or Single: Single
Born: Scotland Greenock
Name/Address...nearest relative...whence alien came: Uncle. Alexander Ross. 35 West Blackhall St. Greenock
Final DestinatIon: N.Y. Brooklyn
Joining relative or friend: Uncle Alexander Ross. 4818 6th Avenue. Brooklyn. N.Y.
Length of Stay: Permanent
5' 4" Complexion: ; Hair: Fair; Eyes: Brown
Place of Birth: Scotland Greenock [Lined out]

Sorry, didn't see you posting...was trying to type the above.

If anyone manages to come up with any further information that would help me, please post it on here. Got to go now, will be back on here tomorrow.

elizabeth and cecelia must have been visiting family. its too much of a coincidence having people by the same name staying with people that originally came from Greenock.

everyone else except me is good at researching!

It is really strange!

I knew that Jack had 1st went across to New York in 1923, he went to stay with an Uncle Alexander Ross, I have been able to trace limited details of Alexander.

So Jack must have went to New York in August 1923 sailing from Glasgow, came back to Scotland at some point(I havent been able to trace this yet), got married to Elizabeth(possibly Foster, just got her pregnant by days or weeks, sailed back to New York in Sept 1927 from Southampton, Cecelia was born in June 1928. Elizabeth and Cecelia sail to New York Nov 1928 from Southampton.

I am not too sure how you spell Cecelia or Cecilia.

Murdoch Mitchell didnt sail with Jack Ross in 1923, they are not on the same passenger listing.

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
Name: Murdoch Sutherland Mitchell
Arrival Date: 1 Jul 1923
Age: 28
Birth Date: abt 1895
Birth Country: Scotland
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Scotch (Scotish)
Ship Name: Metagama
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Pattern Maker
Last Permanent Residence: Scotland, [cannot read] _ree_ock
Name/Address...whence alien came: Wife Mrs Henrietta Mitchell, 69 Nicolson St. Greenock
Final Destination: Mich Detroit
Joining relative/friend: Mrs. James Davidson.6530 North Cross Ave. Detroit Mich (Aunt)
Place of Birth: Scotland Greenock

Very odd. Two Elizabeth's, married at age 29, born in Scotland within one year of each other, with daughters named Cecelia, born in England within one year of each other, immigrating the same year. Is there a chance that they were visiting her sister and brother-in-law and were included on that census???

1930 US Federal Census, dated April 9
Name: Jack Ross
Home in 1930: Queens, Queens, New York
Age: 34
Birth Year: abt 1896
Birthplace: Scotland
Age at first marriage: 31; Elizabeth: 29
Parents' birthplace: Scotland; Elizabeth's: Scotland
Household Members:
Name Age
Jack Ross 34, immigrated 1923, Machinist, Meter? Works
Elizabeth Ross 31 born Scotland, immigrated 1928
Cecelia Ross 1 2/12, born England, immigrated 1928
George Ross 27, Brother, Lumber Handler, Lumber Yard
Address: 1015 47 Ave? (Apartment Building?)

Apparently Jack came over in 1923 and again later?

Murdoch Mitchell, the person whom Elizabeth with living with, immigrated in 1923 as well.

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name: Jack Alexander Ross
Birth Date: 3 Jan 1896
RESIDENCE: Queens, New York
Birth: Greenock, Scotland
Race: White
Roll: WWII_2372049

Place of Residence: 23 - 44 - 125 Street College Pt. Queens N.Y.
Name of Person who will always know your address: Mrs. Elizabeth Ross (same address as above)
Name of Employer: R. Hoe? & Coy? Locast Ave & 138th Street, Bronx, N.Y.

yes i think that is her on the free BMD

Jim/Thelma Thanks for that
How can I find out when and where Cecelias parents were married? The only info I have on them is....
John Alexander Ross b14Mar1896 Greenock
Elizabeth (Possibly Foster) b? Scotland

John Alexander Ross was born in Greenock Scotland on 03 Jan 1896.
Died 14 March 1963 in New York. He was known as Jack.
At some point he worked for Bethlehem Steel in New York, as an outside machinist.

I have tried to relook for Cecelia on the US death index now and cant find her. I had her down as dying in 1984, not sure where I got that information from now!

On Ancestry
Arrived NY
Jack A Ross 22 Sep 1927 abt 1896 Southampton, England Scottish (Scotish) Mauretania
1930
Jack Ross Elizabeth Queens, Queens, NY abt 1896 Scotland Head
WW2 Draft
Jack Alexander Ross 3 Jan 1896 Greenock, Scotland Queens, New York

Could this be her birth from free BMD?


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1928 (>99%)
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Ross Cecilia P Foster Orsett 4a 979

Lisa
I'm confused now. I had Cecelia in the 1930 census as living with her mum Elizabeth, father John (Known as Jack) and George (Jacks brother). They were staying in Queens New York.
So I think there must be 2 elizabeth ross's with daughters called cecelia, that were born around the same time.
What website are you using for the census? Its seems to give more census information than I can get...I'm not that good at this family research yet.

Hi Catherine.
1930 US Federal Census, dated April 9
Name: Cecelia Ross
Home in 1930: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
Age: 1
Birth Year: abt 1928
Relation to Head of House: Niece
Parents' birthplace: Scotland
Household Members:
Name Age
Murdoch Mitchell 34, born Scotland, immigrated 1923, Pattern Maker, Motor Body Shop
Henrietta Mitchell 34, born Scotland
Dorothy Mitchell, 7/12? , born Michigan
Elizabeth Ross 32, married at age 29, born Scotland, immigrated 1928, Saleslady, Dept. Store (s-i-l to Murdoch)
Cecelia Ross 1 10/12, born England, immigrated 1928
Address: 626 Pennsylvania
Cecilia's birthplace is England; perhaps there is an error on the immigration record.
Elizabeth is shown as married.
Will look for her father. Would you have John's birthdate, please? And occupation, if possible. He had a common name.

Is Cecilia's Social Security information under her maiden name, then?

Lisa
You are looking at the correctly at the passenger list, it does say that Cecilia was born in Little Thurrock in Scotland, but as far as I know the only Little Thurrock in Britain is in Essex....unless anyone can help me out otherwise.

I am unable to find Cecilia on the 1930 census. Where they staying in New York? Was John Ross not around,that Cecilias father?

To date I dont know whether or not Cecilia got married, she did have a daughter called Theresa.

I dont know where she is buried.

Cecilia and her mum were living with Murdoch Mitchell (Elizabeth's brother-in-law) in 1930. Census enumeration was April 9. Cecilia's age is recorded as 1 10/12, so she more than likely was born in June.