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You say you are v sure William married mary jones. If you do not have any children's birth cert where did you find her name? I just find it strange that there is a marriage to Mary Garstang and he has a visitor named garstang in 1881. If HIS name was William Jones Whitworth (and it is William J on the census) it is probable that all the children would have the name Jones Whitworth. Plus no children born between 1866 & 1871.

So, if William Jones Whitworth married Mary Garstang in 1871, he can't be the son of William Whitworth and Mary Jones because they didn't marry until 1866.
This is getting confusing!

Hi Lisa,
Sorry for the delay in answering your question, I had to go out and do a little shopping and we're in the midst of a major snowstorm here, driving is treacherous. Boy, I'm glad to be home again!
BVRI is British Vital Records Index, a set of 16 cd's that I purchased many years ago from LDS. I understand they're no longer for sale but the records are now on Worldwide Ancestry, which is a bit too expensive for me. The records are extracted from parish records and contain 10.4 million births and 1.9 million marriages in England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales between 1530-1906.

I think the marriage for William J and Mary J with visitor Alice Garstang will be

William Jones Whitworth/Mary Jane Garstang
1871 Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Blackburn
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 617

Andy

I agree, Julie, I'm sure we've got 2 different families here.

There are these children on BVRI born to William & Mary Jane in Ashton under Lyne but they don't match the children that you have.

WHITWORTH, Caroline Bir 1867 Engl Lanc AshunL
Fa: William WHITWORTH
Mo: Mary Jane
WHITWORTH, George Henry Bir 1868 Engl Lanc AshunL
Fa: William WHITWORTH
Mo: Mary Jane
WHITWORTH, James Bir 1870 Engl Lanc AshunL
Fa: William WHITWORTH
Mo: Mary Jane
WITWORTH, Mary Bir 1872 Engl Lanc AshunL
Fa: William WITWORTH
Mo: Mary Jane
WHITWORTH, Caroline Bir 1874 Engl Lanc AshunL
Fa: William WHITWORTH
Mo: Mary Jane
WHITWORTH, Thomas Bir 1876 Engl Lanc AshunL
Fa: William WHITWORTH
Mo: Mary Jane
WHITWORTH, Herbert Bir 1878 Engl Lanc AshunL
Fa: William WHITWORTH
Mo: Mary Jane
WHITWORTH, Ellen Bir 1881 Engl Lanc AshunL
Fa: William WHITWORTH
Mo: Mary Jane
WHITWORTH, Joseph William Bir 1883 Engl Lanc AshunL
Fa: William WHITWORTH
Mo: Mary Jane

The marriage on BVRI:

WHITWORTH, William Marriage
Wife: Mary Jane JONES
Marriage Date: 20 Aug 1866 Recorded in: Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Michael
Husband's Father: Joseph WHITWORTH
Wife's Father: Thomas JONES
Source: FHL Film 1550976 Dates: 1859 - 1867

I would suggest you send off for the marriage certificate to confirm his fathers name.


Victor

Back to the drawing board guys!!!
The story so far:
Robert Jones Whitworth b1815 ish
Father John Jones Whitworth,unknown mother!!
Robert married Ann Parker
1842 in Middleton,Lancashire.
At this time he was working as a school master.
His father John was a "Tinner"
Ann's father was a watchmaker
The details on the cert are few!!
No address just Middleton,no ages,just "of full age"
A year after their marriage, in 1843 they had a son
William (Jones) Whitworth (born at Duncan St Ashton-u-Lyne)
At this time Robert was still working as a school master
But in 1871 on the marriage of his son William he was working as a cashier.
Well i think thats about it ,just to say a HUGE thanks to all you FAB people who give up their time to help me on this long & suprisingly emotional Journey,kind regards Lisaxxxx