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2 Feb 2009 01:55 |
Dee~ Yes that is the correct family. The 11 year old Mary E Brader is actually Elizabeth Mary Brader, known as Polly. She is on photograph with Lizzie so they cannot be the same person.
The photograph shows every member of the household in that 1891 Census, plus the elusive Lizzie. It was taken approx 5 years earlier than Census.
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2 Feb 2009 01:47 |
So is this the family in 1891??
1891 England Census about Mary E Brader Name: Mary E Brader Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: George Gender: Female Where born: Killingholme, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Great Grimsby Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: Grimsby County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Caistor Sub registration district: Great Grimsby ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George Brader 35 Born Fulletby, Lincolnshire Mary E Brader 34 George T Brader 15 Mary E Brader 11 <<<< Lizzie??? Thomas J Brader 13 Joseph E Brader 12 Willson F Myatt 10 Richard H Brader 8 Mellie Myatt 7
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2 Feb 2009 01:31 |
Roy~ No i dont...its on my list!
However, i do know the following: Mary Eleanor Hutton, born approx 1857 Killingholme, daughter of John Hutton and Mary Jane Fisher.
George was born approx 1854, no idea who his parents were (the reason i need the marriage certificate!)
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2 Feb 2009 01:01 |
Do you have the marriage cert for George Thomas Myatt and Mary Eleanor Hutton, if so what were there age's and fathers names and occupation's
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2 Feb 2009 00:45 |
Thanks Roy and Victoria for your input. Nellie said that Lizzie was her sister, but you are both right, it just doesn't seem to fit. Maybe that was what Nellie believed but it wasnt actually true?
I havent been able to trace Mary Eleanor or George Thomas prior to their childrens births so i dont know if they had any siblings that could have been Lizzie's parents.
Nellie was registered as Nellie at birth, so i assumed Lizzie was not a nickname. I suppose it could have been though. Maybe Elizabeth or Isabel?
Victoria ~ I think you have Wilson Fisher under the wrong heading, he was born in 1880 and didnt die then.
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2 Feb 2009 00:37 |
Myatt births Alfred Joseph Myatt 1862 Jan-Feb-Mar Caistor Lincolnshire Clara Agnes Myatt 1869 Jul-Aug-Sep Caistor Lincolnshire George Myatt 1879 Jul-Aug-Sep Caistor Lincolnshire Mabel Miriam Myatt 1884 Oct-Nov-Dec Caistor Lincolnshire Nellie Myatt 1883 Apr-May-Jun Caistor Lincolnshire Percy Hartcliffe Myatt 1889 Oct-Nov-Dec Caistor Lincolnshire Thomas John Myatt 1878 Jan-Feb-Mar Caistor Lincolnshire
deaths George Myatt abt 1879 1879 Caistor Lincolnshire Joseph Myatt abt 1830 1892 Caistor Lincolnshire Percy Hartcliffe Myatt abt 1890 1894 Caistor Lincolnshire Sarah Elizabeth Myatt abt 1834 1896 Caistor Lincolnshire Wilson Fisher Myatt 1880 Oct-Nov-Dec Caistor Lincolnshire
no sign of lizzie, are you sure she was a daughter and not a niece or other relative?
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2 Feb 2009 00:04 |
Are you sure that Lizzie is an older Sister and not a cousin or friend, also could Lizzie have been a nickname for her.
If she is abt 4/5 years older, then when did mum give birth as all the other children' birth does not leave a big enough gap for Lizzie unless she was the first born?
But she is not with them on the 1881 census either
1881 Name: Mary Eleanor Myatt Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Wife (Head) (Head) Gender: Female Where born: Killingholme, Lincoln, England Civil Parish: Clee With Weelsby County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: 17 Hilda Street Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Fishermans Wife Registration district: Caistor Sub registration district: Great Grimsby ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mary Eleanor Myatt 24 Thos.John Myatt 3 Wilson F. Myatt Roy
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1 Feb 2009 23:31 |
I would be grateful for any help in searching for information on Lizzie Myatt, daughter of George Thomas Myatt and Mary Eleanor Hutton.
George and Mary Married in 1876 in Caistor. They had the following children: Thomas John (1878) Caistor George (1879-1879) Caistor Wilson Fisher (1880) Caistor Nellie (1883) Caistor and Lizzie....
I have a family photograph taken when Nellie was around 2, so approx 1885. In the photo is her older sister Lizzie (i would say approx 4-5 years old.)
The problem is that i can find no trace of a birth for a Lizzie Myatt and she does not appear on the 1891 Census with the family.
The family is on Grimsby on the 1891 Census. Mary has remarried George Brader and George Myatt is deceased.
Thanks
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