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EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 13 Mar 2009 20:49

The people after them on the same page reside in, respectively,

A loft
A Barn
A Tent

The previous address is "Butchers Meadow", which is preceded by "[something] Yard" (those households look settled.)

They are on the last page for the district, suggesting they were on the outskirts.


EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 13 Mar 2009 20:47

Yes! That was one mighty slow penny!

Wagon, Caravan. Same deal. They were travellers -- they stopped in towns, and he re-caned chairs, and she sold clothes pegs.

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 13 Mar 2009 20:46

You have Ancestry, no? The image is there.

I call it Corelanda.

And it's a girl, of course. Why did I assume boy?

Sue in Sunny Worthing

Sue in Sunny Worthing Report 13 Mar 2009 20:46

The penny has just dropped!!

1881 - Residence: A Waggon, Cheddleton, Staffs

Does that literally mean they lived in a wagon? Like a travellers caravan?

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 13 Mar 2009 20:45

I searched all UK censuses for given name

cor*nder

and he doesn't show up.

Okay, Ancestry has him as Corelanda in 1881.

The censuses have

Corrinder Cook
Corisander Bridges
Corriander Gwilliam
Corander Chaney
Corisander Davis
Coronder George/Brown
Corander Brewster
Corender Meller
Coriliander Herron
Coriander Mc Thel

(without checking any images for real spellings)

FreeBMD is taking forever to find any births for Cor*nder ...

Shouldn't there be siblings Parsely and Thyme? Sounds like my sister, who was busy naming her kids for plants. The first was a girl, and If the second (and last) had been a boy her choices were looking like Basil and Narcissus.

Sue in Sunny Worthing

Sue in Sunny Worthing Report 13 Mar 2009 20:42

I can't look at image cos its 1881

Sue in Sunny Worthing

Sue in Sunny Worthing Report 13 Mar 2009 20:38

Oh Evie, that would've been a lovely one - Uriah Prince!!!

If only ............

But thanks for looking x

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 13 Mar 2009 20:37

"Corelander"?

We've checked that one on the image, have we?

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 13 Mar 2009 20:34

Oh crap.

1891

Name: Uriah Prince
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Sarah
Where born: Onecote, Staffordshire, England

Well, you know my theories. They're always brilliant, they're just not always right!

Sue in Sunny Worthing

Sue in Sunny Worthing Report 13 Mar 2009 20:29

Margaret - would you be able to look for the christening of any of Uriah's siblings for me please?

George about 1872
Corelander about 1875
Matthew about 1876
Sarah about 1878

Sue

Sue in Sunny Worthing

Sue in Sunny Worthing Report 13 Mar 2009 20:18

There is a birth registered for Uriah Bailey in June Q 1880 but its in Wisbech & thats Norfolk/Cambridge area - what a nuisance!!

I think Margaret has find the correct christening

Sue in Sunny Worthing

Sue in Sunny Worthing Report 13 Mar 2009 20:16

Just been on Multi map & Buxton, Macclesfield, Chapel le Frith, Warslow, Cauldon & Ashourne are all within about 15 miles of each other.

Whats this PRINCE? Is he royalty I wonder?

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 13 Mar 2009 20:12

Timothy and Mary don't seem to have married, either, hm?

I wonder whether Uriah was registered, but under Mary's surname?

Christened in Elkstone and Warslow, Staffordshire, wherever that is.

There is this Uriah birth in Staffordshire in 2nd Q 1880:

Births Jun 1880
PRINCE Uriah Leek 6b 318

Oh look! Leek includes Warslow & Elkestones!

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 13 Mar 2009 20:04

Duh me, Margaret found the christening -- but -- no reg for Uriah Bealey.

And no matching reg for Uriah Bailey.

More grist for the travellers hypothesis -- evidence of birth (christening) but no registration.

Sue in Sunny Worthing

Sue in Sunny Worthing Report 13 Mar 2009 20:04

My Barnards were Richers - God knows what these Baileys will be!!

How do I explain this to a 9 year old??? :-)

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 13 Mar 2009 20:02

The result is that you may not find birth registrations, I fear.

I didn't see a Peter or Uriah who could definitively be yours at FreeBMD, anyhow -- although he could have been born so many places, who knows?

And they may simply not be in the 1891 census at all. Quelle drag, but on the other hand, kind of exciting.

If your Barnards turned out to have Roma connections ... oh well, they weren't your Barnards, were they?!

Sue in Sunny Worthing

Sue in Sunny Worthing Report 13 Mar 2009 20:01

Not another possible gypsy???

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 13 Mar 2009 19:57

Aha, I neglected to note Mary's occupation, very bad of me.

There was a recent discussion here of an Elias (De)Gray who was a traveller -- and his occupation was wooden peg maker in one census, and he was living in a caravan.

I think that's what you have here, Sue.

Uriah may have switched to Peter when he settled down and become ordinary.

Sue in Sunny Worthing

Sue in Sunny Worthing Report 13 Mar 2009 19:56

Wow, just checked back & you've all been busy - thank you

Hi Evie - I thought you might see it was me & I was a bit embarrassed to ask for help again!!

Margaret - thank you for taking the time to help

Right, I'm going to read all that you've found once more - slowly this time, and report back in a min!!!

Evie - I read that post about Bethnal Green Tube station that you've been helping with - very interesting. There was a terrible train crash in Lewisham in 1956 with many losing their life. It happened on the railway line that literally ran along the end of our back garden. I was 3 years old & eating my tea at the time, the impact threw me off my chair!!! I'll never forget it., it was terrible.

Be back in a min xx

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 13 Mar 2009 19:46

This looks like the Uriah that I found on BVRI:
1881 census
Residence: A waggon, Cheddleton, Staffordshire
Timothy Bailey, head, 33, chair bottomer, born Cheshire, Macclesfield
Mary, wife, 30, clothes peg maker, born Chester
George, son, 9, born Staffs, Horton
Corelander, dau, 6, born Cheshire, Broken Cross
Matthew, son, 5, born Derbyshire, Buxton
Sarah, dau, 3, born Staffs, Leek
Uriah, son, 1, born Derbyshire, Ashbourne

Oops, sorry, just re-read the post and you already had that!