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EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 24 Mar 2009 22:38

Well, Lew, since you asked ... ;)

I think, first off, that's him, little question about it.

As to the name change, hmm. Maybe there was something in the Smith family history that wasn't good news for being a bobby?

Interesting. Need that Evan Smith birth cert before going too much farther -- just to be sure his parents really were George and Mary.

It's always possible he was actually their grandchild, maybe the result of a different Smith gir's dalliance with a Halstead ...

Lewella

Lewella Report 24 Mar 2009 22:37

Ellen Smith married John Halstead in 1866. The children in the 1881 census are noted as her step children. Only Charles is a product of the marriage

Lewella

Lewella Report 24 Mar 2009 22:34

And check out Lettice Smith!


1881 England Census
about Lettice Smith
Name: Lettice Smith
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Burnley, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Burnley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 48 Oxford Rd
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Cotton Spinner

Registration district: Burnley
Sub registration district: Burnley
ED, institution, or vessel: 9a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Halstead 41
Ellen J. Halstead 24
Ruth Halstead 22
Albert Halstead 21
John Halstead 19
Nathaniel Halstead 16
Charles Halstead 11
Mary E. Rushton 20 (nee Halstead)
Lettice Smith 21

Lewella

Lewella Report 24 Mar 2009 22:22

Have you purchased the marriage certificate to ascertain Evan's father's details?

I'm sticking to what I think. Nothing else fits. Evan Halstead was probably born Evan Smith. For some reason, he changed his name from Smith to Halstead and he chose his sister's married name.

stellab

stellab Report 24 Mar 2009 22:18

This is what i have got so far.
1881 cencus Bury - boarder - policeman
1891 cencus Bury - Weights and measures inspector
1901 cencus Bolton ditto
1913 death in Bolton sub district Tonge with Haulgh. age 58.

stella

Lewella

Lewella Report 24 Mar 2009 22:11

I think he actually took his married sister's name of Halstead

stellab

stellab Report 24 Mar 2009 22:08

Hi could it be that Evan took his mothers name as his parents were unmarried and later took his fathers name, could this happen thanks for help stella

Lewella

Lewella Report 24 Mar 2009 22:07

Stella

What I'm saying is, Evan's sister was Sarah Smith and she married a Halstead. I think that Evan Halstead was born Evan Smith, but for some reason changed his name.

Interestingly, here is Evan's sister and her husband in 1881. Check out the husband's occupation:


1881 England Census
about Thomas Halstead
Name: Thomas Halstead
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Burnley, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ince in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 5 Welding Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: County Police Constable

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Hindley
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Halstead 27
Sarah Halstead 27
John Halstead 5
Martha Alice Halstead 4
Alfred Halstead 2
Sarah Halstead

stellab

stellab Report 24 Mar 2009 22:03

Thanks Lewella, that doesnt make sense to me, I know that Sarah's parents were Thomas Catterall 1826 Rochdale and Emma Patterson 1836 Bolton, married 1854 at St. Johns, Bolton, Lancs. Found Evan on 1881 cencus in Bury Listed as a boarder and occupation Policeman. He is a mystery to me, he is my husbands great-grandfather. Thanks for your efforts, kind regards Stella

Lewella

Lewella Report 24 Mar 2009 21:55

He could have had a falling out with the family and changed his name to Halstead

1861 England Census
about Evan Smith
Name: Evan Smith
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Burnley, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Burnley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Burnley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Burnley
Sub registration district: Burnley
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 102
Household Members:
Name Age
George Smith 55
Mary Smith 46
Edward Smith 20
Elizabeth Smith 16
Sarah Smith 14
Martha Smith 12
Evan Smith 6
Lettice Smith 1

Lewella

Lewella Report 24 Mar 2009 21:54

Hello, hello, this is interesting!

The only Evan born at that time:


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Evan Smith
Name: Evan Smith
Year of Registration: 1855
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Burnley
County: Lancashire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 8e
Page: 156

Now here he is in 1871. Check out the married daughter's name!


1871 England Census
about Evan Smith
Name: Evan Smith
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Gender: Male
Where born: Burnley, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Reedley Hollows
Ecclesiastical parish: [Extra Parochial]
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Burnley
Sub registration district: Burnley
ED, institution, or vessel: 56
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 93
Household Members:
Name Age
George Smith 67
Evan Smith 16
Lettice Smith 11
George Smith 1 (grandson of George)
Sarah Halstead 23 (daughter of George)

stellab

stellab Report 24 Mar 2009 21:45

I am trying to find the birth records for Evan Halstead 1855abt in Burnley Lancashire, I can find him in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 cencus records but nothing previous to that. He married Sarah Crissey Catterall in 1881 in Bury Lancs, found this on Lancs BMD site. but cannot find any records of his birth, was wanting to find his parents, many thanks stella