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you're right william's mother was brockhurst and with the info that you've got i can add them to my family tree and hopefully trace other members from earier generations, so a big THANKYOU

I have found his parents in 1901, he wasn't with them.

You really need the birth cert of William A to be sure you're tracing the correct family.

Was Annie born 1898 listed as his sister in 1911?

I think I have found the marriage but again the birth cert would give William A mother's maiden name.

Marriages Jun 1904 (>99%)


<<<Brockhurst Frances Annie M Battle 2b 113
<<<Gregory William George H Battle 2b 113


1891 England Census
about Frances A M Brockhurst
Name: Frances A M Brockhurst
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Esther
Gender: Female
Where born: Mountfield, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Laughton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England


Registration district: Hailsham
Sub registration district: Hellingly
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Brockhurst 54
Esther Brockhurst 50
Joseph Brockhurst 20
Richard A Brockhurst 18
Clement J Brockhurst 15
Frances A M Brockhurst 11

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 777; Folio 74; Page 8; GSU roll: 6095887.


1881 England Census
about George Brockhurst
Name: George Brockhurst
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Esther
Gender: Male
Where born: Salehurst

Civil Parish: Sedlescombe
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

<<<<<Street address: Hooks Beach (Police Station)
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Police Constable

Registration district: Battle
Sub registration district: Ewhurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Brockhurst 43
Esther Brockhurst 40
Lewes Brockhurst 17
George Brockhurst 15
William Brockhurst 13
Joseph Brockhurst 10
Albert Brockhurst 8
Clement Brockhurst 5
<<Anne Brockhurst 1 possibly using middle name


Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1033; Folio: 19; Page: 14;

This could be her in 1901 as image shows the name as May not Mary, using another of her Christian names.

1901 England Census
about Mary Brockhurst
Name: Mary Brockhurst
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Mountfield, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude South Kensington
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Kensington
Sub registration district: Brompton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 275
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Gardiner 54
Agnes A Gardiner 56
Agnes M Gardiner 23
Louisa Walker 20
Helena Taylor 22
Mary Brockhurst 21


Christine

william georgewas born in sawbridgeworth herts, his wife was born in hook on beech sussex, now william was born in 1883 and his wife was born in 1880, i've tried looking for william george's wife in earlier cenus but i couldn't find her, i traced william george in 1891 and he is living with his parents and younger siblings, but no record of him in 1901

Hi Sylvia,

Pleased it seems to tie in.

Where were William G and his wife born?

I will try to find them in earlier years.

Christine

according to the cenus william george was a nursery gardener so this ties into all the info i already had, so there is a strong possiblity that william a is my grandfather

If you search on Free BMD for the birth as I did.

Click on Edmonton and you will then see the areas the district covers.

EDMONTON REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Registration County : Middlesex.
Created : 1.7.1837.
Abolished : 1.4.1965 (succeeded by Enfield and Haringey districts).
Sub-districts : Cheshunt; East Tottenham; Edmonton; Enfield; Hampstead; Hornsey; Pymmes Park, Southgate; Tottenham; Waltham Abbey; West Tottenham; Wood Green.
GRO volumes : III (1837-51); 3a (1852-1946), 5E (1946-65).

Township or Civil Parish
County
From
To
Notes

Cheshunt
HRT
1837
1939
transferred to Ware district on 1.7.1939
Edmonton
MDX
1837
1965
after 1965 see Enfield (GTL) (in Enfield district)

Enfield
MDX
1837
1965
after 1965 see Enfield (GTL) (in Enfield district)

Hampstead
MDX
1837
1846
transferred to Hampstead district on 1.1.1847
Hornsey
MDX
1837
1947
transferred to Wood Green district on 1.10.1947
South Hornsey
MDX
1896
1899
before 1896 see Hornsey / after 1899 see Stoke Newington (LND) (in Hackney district); Islington (LND) (in Islington district)

Southgate
MDX
1894
1947
before 1894 see Edmonton / transferred to Wood Green district on 1.10.1947

Tottenham
MDX
1837
1965
after 1965 see Haringey (GTL) (in Haringey district)

Waltham Holy Cross
ESS
1837
1939
transferred to Epping district on 1.7.1939

Wood Green
MDX
1894
1947
before 1894 see Tottenham / transferred to Wood Green district on 1.10.1947


Registers now divided between Haringey, Enfield, Broxbourne and Epping Forest districts.


Does the census say how long William G has been married and what was his occupation?

I think the best thing to do is to buy the birth cert and then you will know the MMN and if the birthdate is correct.

Christine

i've just gone to the 1911 cenus and according to the info you have given me i found him but according to the cenus william a was born in chestnut, but the family were living in edmonton, so is it possible that william a was re regestred in edmonton

You have to buy credits to look at the transcription or image to find more details.

It's quite possible the occupation could be different to what is recorded in 1940 on the marriage cert as 30 years is a long time.

Christine

if this is the right william then i've been looking for him in the wrong place, i've been looking for him in london, but then that totally messed up my family tree, but yes he did die in jan 1970 at hammersmith hospital, so his death would of been recorded at hammersmith registry office, on the 1911 cenus does it tell you what william g's occupation is, cos if he is the right person then william g should be a gardener

Did he die in 1970?

There is a registration Jan/Feb/Mar/ qtr 1970 in Hammersmith 5b 1886.

This one gives a birth date of 28th Oct 1910 and is William Andrew Gregory.

If that is him then this is a possible birth reg


Births Dec 1910 (>99%)

GREGORY William A Edmonton 3a 676

This appears to be the household in 1911


HOUSEHOLD GREGORY WILLIAM A M 1910 5 MONTHS Edmonton Middlesex
HOUSEHOLD GREGORY ANNIE VICTORIA F 1898 13 Edmonton Middlesex
HOUSEHOLD GREGORY DOROTHY IVY MAY F 1905 6 Edmonton Middlesex
HOUSEHOLD GREGORY FRANCIS ANNIE MAY F 1880 31 Edmonton Middlesex
HOUSEHOLD GREGORY IVANRIES EVA F 1909 2 Edmonton Middlesex
HOUSEHOLD GREGORY WILLIAM G M 1883 28 Edmonton Middlesex

Father appears to be William G so could be George.

Christine

none of the winesses were gregory i don't have his death cert, but my dad says he's going to try and get a copy as he only lives a short distance from where he died, if you want i can tell you where he died if that will help, but other than that i cant tell you anything else cos i was a baby when he died

You need to find the birth registration for William Andrew.

Does the marriage cert give any more clues?

Were either of the witnesses named Gregory?

Will have another search around later.

His death registration may also give a better clue as to his age.

Christine

i got george from the 1901 cenus i then traced him in the 1911 cenus, but after i realised he had changed his job, i then noticed that he had a wife and child, so then i thought that possibly george's younger sister might of been the natural mother and george broght up the child as his own, but after a lot of response i realised that i was barking up the wrong tree, so i went to the 1891 cenus i found that george had an older sister but she was not at home in 1901, so then i thought that she could be the natrual mother, but again after a lot of response i realised i was still barking up the wrong tree, so now i'm stuck, i had thought possibly that my william may of been an illigitamate child of george and when his william died he went and found his other william and brought him back, but i cant prove this so any help will be greatly recieved

How have you got back to the family in Melksham if you don't have a birth cert for Willaim Andrew?

There are quite a few William A Gregory's born 1910-1911 which would fit in with his age on marriage cert.

Do you know when he died?

Christine

william andrew gregory was married to jeanie o brien moultrie in jan 1940 at brentford registry office he was 29 and she was 24 he was in the army.

Sylvia will you please post results to questions I asked regarding William Andrew's marriage on Page 1 of this request.
People are trying to help but we need answers to make sure we look in the correct places.

Mary

When did William Andrew marry and how old was he?

Christine

according to william andrew's marriage cert his father was a gardener, now i clocked george gregory (market)gadener in 1901 and he was living with his parents, and in 1911 he has a wife and child but not my grandfather, now i have shaken lots of trees but nothing it's like he doesn't exist, but i have photos, so i've been wondering if possibly he was registered under his middle name then christened wiliam andrew later. i also cant find wiliam andrew in the 1911 cenus, so i was wondering if he was born after the cenus was done

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1916 (99%)
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Gregory Albert E J Carpenter Melksham 5a 152

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1903 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>Carpenter Winifred Sarah Melksham 5a 231
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GREGORY George Melksham 5a 231
GREGORY Mary Elizabeth Melksham 5a 231
Pearce Albert John Melksham 5a 231