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Nudge - In case anyone else can advice Peter

You are all very kind peopleas i say iwas born in stepney (i have a birth certificate) my prolem is i was sent to scotland to my granparents and when she had another child iwas sent back 2 london in one of the homes of camden council ie 2gravely avenue borehamwood herts it was then in the GLC. camden council are saying these childrens homes did not exsist i know they did i and many other kids lived in them.they say they no records (my life is lost) PS i cannot get any information out of scotlands records either. I THANK YOU ALL Peter

So is SUSAN on your birth certificate JUST down as SUSAN ?
( no second name )

Odds, are Susan was born in Scotland so the 1944 born in England is incorrect.

Hi her name was susan frankland a barmaid in a pub in St Pancrus (sorry how is it spelt) and lived at 396 comercial road stepney according to my birth certificate that is whey iwas born

Peter she didn't live at 396 Commercial Road Stepney, that 's the address of East End Maternity Hospital.

This is the website for the hospital archives although I don't know that they'll give you any information

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/details.asp?id=140&page=18

I think you're going to have to keep chasing Social Service & if need be contact your MP & Frank Dobson MP for Camden Town

http://www.epolitix.com/mpwebsites/mpwebsitepage/mpsite/frank-dobson/mppage/contacts-40/

You could hope that someone who has access to the SCOTTISH INDEXES can find a SUSAN FRANKLAND's birth that may fit the approx age of Susan.

Hi Peter,

Right first things first, you do not know how old Susan was when she had you do you ? How long did you live with your Grandparents ? Have you any idea of their names ?

There is no longer anything at the address you gave

2 gravely avenue borehamwood

How long where you there, and where you ever adopted ? Maybe this place has closed down.

Try contacting this number and ask for someone who deals with children placed in care

Camden Town Hall
Judd Street
London WC1H 9JE
Phone: 020-7974 4444
Textphone: 020 7974 6866

There must be files somewhere, it may be possible that when you went to your Grandparents you records where send to Scotland, but as you where sent back to London there must be some thing there also, or poss in Stepney.

Claire in Wales

this is a C & P of a PM peter sent me.

Hello Wendy the home was just a house in borehamwood but the camden council had three more one in arundel drive and two in furzhill road to whitch they still refuse to admit to the person keeps saying it comes under hertfordshire (probaly cannot be bothered to check the records)

..I looked at it on Google Street view and it is a normal house on an estate. I have asked Peter if he has tried Herts social services but no reply yet.

Wendy

Had a few credits left on SP so had a look - found a couple of possibles for Susan and 1 possible for Mark?:

No Year Surname Forename Sex District City/County/MR GROS Data Image Extract
1945 FRANKLAND SUSAN F F PAISLEY /RENFREW 573/01 0325 No Image ORDER

1931 FRANKLAND SUSAN F F PAISLEY /RENFREW 573/01 1044 No Image ORDER


No Year Surname Forename Sex District City/County/MR GROS Data Image Extract
1 1968 FRANKLAND MARK RICHARD M ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH) EDINBURGH/MIDLOTHIAN 685/02 0503 No Image ORDER

Mary

Peter now has details to send in the right direction for what hes seeking.....

From me Thank you all for your time you are very good people. i am not very good with computers but with all the info and you have given me i will try THANK YOU ALL PETER

BT on line has a listing for an M Frankland in Edinburgh. Altogether, there are only 4 listings for that surname in Edinburgh.

http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/publisha.content/en/search/residential/search.publisha

I will send them to Peter privately.

Could I just repeat ... again ... posting the birth details here of someone born in 1968, and thus undoubtedly still living (and really even someone born in the 40s) is not wise and not fair, when the person does not know s/he is being talked about on the internet and has not consented to the information being collected and published here.

Peter has been getting in touch with some of us by PM, and giving us access to his tree.

I don't usually look at people's trees when they do that -- I hate trying to navigate around someone else's tree, and I don't like the idea of opening trees to complete strangers (like me).

To try to help Peter, I decided to take a look. And I discovered that his tree is blank, that is, there seems to be one person, who is "hidden" because he is living -- I assume that's Peter himself.

I've explained to Peter that he needs to put himself and his mother in his tree. If he doesn't put a birthdate for his mother, then whenever someone searches for a Susan Frankland, they will find her in his tree and can contact him.

What I forgot to say, Peter -- do NOT select "hide living people". That is exactly what you don't want to do. You *want* people to find you if they search here at GenesReunited for you or your mother.

Hopefully, with all the suggestions in this thread, Peter will get somewhere with his search.

with a well deserved kick up the backside from Evie i have put what little i know om my tree (i am not very good ) so i dont know what hides mean?? but i now have a brother younger (should be) but higher up the tree, but somehow born later than me i have managed to make him a grandparent me and computers just dont get on And by the way Thank you for all your help yours peter

Evie just foumd out what hidden means on my tree.(i am so stupid) thank you.

Hi Peter,

It is hard when you first start finding your way around this site, :O) listen the first thing you need to do is contact Hets SS, and get some info.

They should be able to give you some info, for instance her age, where she was from etc. this will give the rest of us something concrete to go on.

The problem we have it looks like she came from Scotland but worked and gave birth to you in England, in order to try and find what happened to her after your birth we need to have her full name.

If you find any of this info send us a pm and we will see if we can help you :O)

And just to say - Evie didn't actually deliver any kicks. ;) Exchanged a dozen PMs, explaining how to do the tree, etc. ... and then Peter got a little sad-sack and a wee bit huffy, and I did get a little exasperated, but continued to say he should follow the good advice in this thread and insist that social services give him the assistance he is entitled to!

So yes, Peter -- do what Sheila tells you to do!

Hello all i managed to find some who was in the same home (thanks to kat) you ate good people and i will let you know what happens maybe he has better luck tha me

Sorry i meant Kay not Kat

Found and have spoken to some from the same childrens home (it was not me it was kay who found him) i now have 33 lost years to catch up on Thank youKay and everyone who tried to help me Yours Peter. PS please keep in touch will let you know if i do find a family. once again thank you all