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no /i didn't

i said there was 1) Isabella, 2) HOPE isabella, and 3) Flora

Births Jun 1886 (>99%)
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MCDONALD Ella W. Derby 8b 578

minnie,go back to page one,you said IN THE SAME HOUSEHOLD AS ISABELLA HOPE MCDONALD were annie macdonald age 26,
isabella mcdonad age 46 did you not,so there where two isabella mcdonalds in the house,one was 13 and one was 46 am i right?

that makes more sense

no the facts are not being made to fit at all,yes i have the birth cert,ronald mcdonald born 27feb 1915 in beaconsfield rd west derby liverpool to ella mcdonald,no fathers name.ronald was adopted by charles and may goodlass livind in wavertree rd liverpool(i was also born in wavertree rd liverpool in 1964).why would i try and make the facts fit?ive been to scotland to try and find her this is serious.

Ricochet you are looking in th wrong place! What??????????????

I have found a 46 year old married Isabella that is a 17 year old unmarried ella really......

See i'm right you are wrong :-- P

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MACDONALD FLORA ANNIE F 1885 26 West Derby Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD MACDONALD HOPE ISABELLA F 1898 13 West Derby Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD MACDONALD ISABELLA F 1865 46 West Derby Lancashire


isabella is 46 not a teen mum!

okay, have it your way

minnie,all your info on page one looks correct and falls into place,you looked for isabella mcdonald and found her,thank you...ricochet is looking in the wrong place,but in grateful to both of you for looking.x

Ricochet, do you think tha fact are being 'squeezed ' to fit?

its not the right family, is it?

the isabella Macdonald in w derby in 1911 is aged 46!

No, its all wrong, wrong wrong -

Question

Do you hav your grandfather birth cert?

minnie,ella is short for isabella,maybe she didnt like the name hope?but the lady that found the original one for me on find my past said her name was ISABELLA HOPE MCDONALD and not the other way round,maybe someone has made a mistake with the names?any way in very excited about this,i cant thank you enough.x

So we are all completely up a gum tree -

looking at an Isabella Silcock when you want Ella Macdonald!

I think you are completely on the wrong tract, and letting assumption cloud your view.

DONT!!!

ricochet,isabellas maiden name was mcdonald when she had my grandfather,no fathers name was on the birth cert.my granfather took his mothers maiden name as she wasnt married,thank you very much for looking.x

it all seems a bit far fetched to be honest.

why woould Hope isabella call herself Ella?

if 'Ella' was unmarried, she was born a Macdonald, surely?

minnie,i dont know what to say,im gobsmacked at all the info,isabella was unmarried but if the father died*(ww1 )then she wouldnt have been able to keep the child,this looks like my rellie,everything is falling into place(family rumour says that my grandfathers father went to war and promised isabella he would marry her when he came home but was killed,but nobody believed the story,everyone thought she was making it up because she was pregnant with a fatherless child.x

mum in 1891 - Mum Silcock that is

Name: Jane Silcock
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: West Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: West Derby (Rural)
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Silcock 62
Thomas Winson 18 - a border born Ormskirk, Scotland ( UH huh!)

on my granfathers birth cert his mothers name was ella mcdonald,ella i think was short for isabella,my nan says she was scottish,she was 17 when she had him in 1915 he was then adopted by a couple living in wavertree road,his birth mother reg him before she gave him away and she named him RONALD MCDONALD.he must have been named after her father.oh my god if this is right then ive spend hundreds of pounds barking up the wrong tree.x

could this be why she gave him away?

Deaths Dec 1916
MacDonald Ronald 30 W.Derby 8b 668

oh my god,she named her son(my grandfather)ronald macdonald before she gave him away in 1915.in think ive been barking up the wrong tree for 5yrs,ive even been to scotland to research the family,i will bloody kill my self if she was born in liverpool And not scotland,ha ha

Does what say where they were born?

probaby her parents marriage
Marriages Jun 1895 (>99%)
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Hughes Mary Elizabeth W. Derby 8b 932
Jones Lewis David W. Derby 8b 932
MacDonald Ronald W. Derby 8b 932 <<<<<
Silcock Isabella W. Derby 8b 932 <<<<<