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I realise Barbara has added to an old thread.
Barbara, have you bought William and Ellen's marriage certificate please? It may name her father and that may make it possible to identify her on earlier census records. From the GRO index of births for her children it gives her maiden name as Hale although she married as Stockwell. That would suggest either a previous marriage or that Stockwell was a stepfather's surname?
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OK so its an old post, but new records available soince
1911 for family
Name: Ellen Allen
Age in 1911: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Wottonunderedge, Gloucestershire
Civil Parish: Wotton under Edge
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County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address: Gloster Row, Wotton Under Edge, Glosshire
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 24
Estimated Marriage Year: 1887
Occupation: Household Duties
Registration district: Dursley
Registration District Number: 322
Sub-registration district: Wotton Under Edge
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 186
Piece: 15186
Household Members:
Name Age
William Allen 44
Ellen Allen 46
John Allen 24
Emily Allen 23
Edward Allen 20
Albert Allen 17
Harry Allen 15
William Allen 12
Charles Allen 10
Nellie Allen 7
Evelina Allen 4
Birth of 1st child
MMN Hale?
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ALLEN, JOHN HALE
GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in DURSLEY Volume 06A Page 233
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Welcome to the boards Barbara. The thread is over 8 years old and it's unlikely that June is checking for replies now.
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Hi June, like you Ellen Hale Stockwell is my G Grandmother & I cannot find any details on her parents/siblings. I am the Grandaughter of Nellie Allen. Please contact me if you have any further details.
Regards
Barbara
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........as I was thinking ...
Births Dec 1866 (>99%)
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Oliver Ellen E Dursley 6a 190
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Marriages Sep 1886 (97%)
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Allen William Dursley 6a 371
OLIVER Ellen Elizabeth Dursley 6a 371
but if you have the certificates, then obviously it's just a coincidence.
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Was Ellen's maiden name Hale? I have put every forename of her children with Hale in the hope that she may have used one of her parents names for one of her children but come up with nothing!!!
By the way, the first Ellen's birth date is correct
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Thanks Ann. All the info about the Allens I already have, but I wanted Ellen's Father and Mother and ? siblings. The second family , the 2 Ellen's are the wrong age, as my Ellen was born in 1865
Thanks for trying.
Regards June
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1881
Thomas H. GREEN Head W Male 50 Tewkesbury, Gloucester, England Tailor
Rose GREEN Daur U Female 21 Tewkesbury, Gloucester, England
Matilda GREEN Daur U Female 17 Tewkesbury, Gloucester, England
Ellen STOCKWELL Grand Daur Female 5 Gloster, Gloucester, England Scholar
Catherine STOCKWELL Grand Daur Female 1 Gloster, Gloucester, England
Henry GREEN Uncle W Male 70 Bredons Hardwick, Worcester, England Tailor
Fredk. STOCKWELL Son In Law M Male 24 Gloster, Gloucester, England Carpenter
Ellen M. STOCKWELL Daur M Female 24 Tewkesbury, Gloucester, England
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Source Information:
Dwelling 1 Masons Ct
Census Place Tewkesbury, Gloucester, England
Family History Library Film 1341621
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2578 / 73
Page Number 22
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Husband's Name
William ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-P6P) Pedigree
Born: 15 Jan 1867 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucester, Eng
Died: 11 Aug 1952 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Buried: 14 Aug 1952 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Married: 1 Aug 1886 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Father: John ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-Q22) Family
Mother: Sarah TURNER (AFN:1RNR-Q38)
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Wife's Name
Ellen HALE STOCKWELL (AFN:1RNR-P7W) Pedigree
Born: 28 Feb 1865/1867 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucester, Eng
Died: 7 Jan 1939 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Buried: 9 Jan 1939 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Married: 1 Aug 1886 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Father:
Mother:
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Children
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1. Sex Name
F Florence Lily ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-PBJ) Pedigree
Born: 23 Mar 1889 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Christened: 1 Jun 1896 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Died: 8 Aug 1930 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Buried: 11 Aug 1930 Place: , Gloucs., Eng
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2. Sex Name
M Frank Edward ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-PCQ) Pedigree
Born: 10 Apr 1891 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Christened: 1 Jun 1896 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Died: 17 Jun 1974 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Buried: 20 Jun 1974 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
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3. Sex Name
M Harry Henry ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-P2V) Pedigree
Born: 22 Apr 1896 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucester, Eng
Died: 22 Apr 1974 Place: Gloucester, Gloucs., Eng
Buried: 25 Apr 1974 Place: Ashleworth, Gloucs., Eng
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4. Sex Name
F Nellie ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-PHK) Pedigree
Born: 24 Jul 1905 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Died: 8 May 1983 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Buried: 11 May 1983 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
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5. Sex Name
F Evelyn May ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-PJR) Pedigree
Born: 1 Aug 1907 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Died: 20 Apr 1977 Place: Burnham, On Sea, Eng
Buried: 24 Apr 1977 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
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6. Sex Name
M John ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-P84) Pedigree
Born: 4 Aug 1886 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Christened: 18 Oct 1886 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Died: 7 Feb 1975 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Buried: 11 Feb 1975 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
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7. Sex Name
M Ernest Albert ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-PDX) Pedigree
Born: 8 Nov 1893 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Christened: 8 Nov 1893 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Died: 23 Mar 1972 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Buried: 26 Mar 1972 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
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8. Sex Name
F Alice Emily ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-P9B) Pedigree
Born: 20 Dec 1887 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Christened: 1 Jan 1896 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Died: 4 Jan 1968 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
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9. Sex Name
M William ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-PF5) Pedigree
Born: 29 Dec 1898 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Christened: 24 Feb 1899 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Died: 31 Dec 1969 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Buried: 4 Jan 1969 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
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10. Sex Name
M Peter Charles ALLEN (AFN:1RNR-PGC) Pedigree
Born: 29 Dec 1903 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Died: 18 Mar 1934 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
Buried: 22 Mar 1934 Place: Wotton-U-Edge, Gloucs., Eng
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I have a G Grandmother called Ellen Hale Stockwell, who married William Allen in Wottom-under-Edge, Glos. in 1886. Unforrtunately I cannot find her parents or siblings, indeed nothing about her before she married William. Can anyone suggest where I might look? Her d.o.b is 28/02/1865.
Thanks June
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