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For soem reason David and Mary are living separately in 1841. Possibly becasue of a job??
1841 Census
Name: Mary Cleal
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Where born: Dorset, England
Civil Parish: Mosterton
Hundred: Bridport Division Beaminster Forum and Redhone
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Registration district: Beaminster
Sub-registration district: Misterton <<<<??? should be MOsterton
Mary Cleal 25
Susan Cleal 4
Sarah Cleal 2
George Cleal 1 Mo
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Name: David Cleall
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Dorset, England
Civil Parish: South Perrot
Hundred: Bridport Division Beaminster Forum and Redhone
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Registration district: Beaminster
Sub-registration district: Netherbury
David Cleall 30 Ag Lab
sylvia
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There is this record of marriage on ancestry.com
Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837
Name: Elizth Warren
Spouse: Reuben Cleal
Marriage Date: 1804
Parish: Loders
They do have the actual image from the record ..... jsut gives the names, the place and the year.
This is the couple that the submitted record posted above said were David Cleal's parents.
sylvia
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Reuben in 1841
1841 Census
Name: Reuben Cleall
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1776
Gender: Male
Where born: Dorset, England
Civil Parish: South Perrot
Hundred: Bridport Division Beaminster Forum and Redhone
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Registration district: Beaminster
Sub-registration district: Netherbury
Reuben Cleall 65 Ag Lab
Elizabeth Cleall 65 b.ca 1776, Dorset
Sarah Cleall 75 b.ca 1766, not born in Dorset, Independent
Unfortunately, the 1841 doesn't give the relationships, so is Sarah Reuben's sister??? She seems to be living in a separate part of the house.
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submitted record again from familysearch
Reuben Cleal Pedigree
Male Family
Event(s):
Birth: 14 MAY 1775 Loders, Dorset, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: Roger Cleal Family
Mother: Grace Sargeant
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Marriages:
Spouse: Elizabeth Warren Family
Marriage: 29 FEB 1804 Loders, Dorset, England
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Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.
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Source Information:
No source information is available.
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children of Reuben and Elizabeth ..... all submitted records
1. David Cleal - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 1811 Loders, Dorset, England
2. James Cleal - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 1815 Loders, Dorset, England
3. George Cleal - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: About 1818 Loders, Dorset, England
4. Grace Cleal - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 30 SEP 1804 Loders, Dorset, England
5. Grace Cleal - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 30 SEP 1804 Loders, Dorset, England
6. George Cleal - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: About 1813 , Dorset, England
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Roger Cleal Pedigree
Male Family
Event(s):
Birth: 08 OCT 1721 South Perrott, Dorset, England
Marriages:
Spouse: Grace Sargeant Family
Marriage: 23 OCT 1773 Loders, Dorset, England
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Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.
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Source Information:
No source information is available.
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It looks as if Roger was married twice:-
Roger Cleal Pedigree
Male Family
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 08 OCT 1721 South Perrott, Dorset, England
Parents:
Father: William Cleal Family
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Marriages:
Spouse: Mary Thomas Family
Marriage:
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Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.
There IS an extracted record for this marriage!!!
ROGER CLEAL Pedigree
Male Family
Marriages:
Spouse: MARY THOMAS Family
Marriage: 16 SEP 1747 South Perrott, Dorset, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
No source information is available.
sylvia
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You can go to familysearch and trace Roger Cleal and his children, and see if you can get any further back. It's all free .... but most of the records do seem to be submitted, which means thye have to be treated with caution.
sylvia
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Good enough Gerri :))))
sylvia
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You girls are doing a great job for me.Thank you Gerri and Sylvia.
I got up this morning all excited to see if there was anything else on here and had a nice surprise.
It's just as good as it was when I started my history in 2005.
Must say I have helped a few to get started myself and get a kick out of it.
Keep up the good work ladies and ...thank you very much.
Brenda x x
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Lots of information,Gerri and Sylvia,am just going through it.
I wonder if I could give you another challenge?
The Simon Pavey born c 1797 obviously went to the East Indies where he met Elizabeth Sippins,and it looks as if the 3 children before Hannah were born there.....now my friend thinks that the story came through her family that there was a coloured woman somewhere in the family,but she mentioned the West Indies,and was hoping to find something in the Carribean as she has a lot of friends there...but it is obviously East Indies.
I think we had a military presence there in the early 1800's,also could it be to do with the East India Company.
If you look in could you give me some thoughts on this.
Thank you for everything.
Brenda x
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Brenda,
I have no idea
I looked on familysearch, and there is no record of either Simon or Elizabeth.
I would assume he was either with the East India Company or the British Army ..... the 1851 census did say he was a "Pensioner".
sylvia
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There are some Public and Private Member Trees on ancestry.com that have Simon Pavey in them.
sylvia
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Well done Sylvia!
I knew youd come up trumps and find the easy bits after i did all the hard ones LOLOL
Gerri x
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Hello Gerri,
I am here...Thank you for your message I wasn't on genes much yesterday as I had a lot of work to do and went shopping and waiting for a phone call from Oz as my d'i'l there went into hospital to have a hysterectomy.
I have had a look at gen forum and found a few people of the Pavey family and have sent messages,but not heard anything yet.
I have also looked at National Archives and found Simon Pavey of Yarcombe as soldier/servant 13th Jan 1835,so this would suggest that he was sent to the East Indies by the military and not to do with the East India Co.(If this is the one,which seems likely).These records are in the Devon Record Office.Unfortunately I can't get there,but my friend might be inspired to go to Devon on holiday.She is in Spain at the moment and doesn't know what has been found.What a nice surprise when she comes back!
Thank you for your interest and help.
brenda x
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