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Depending on how eager you are to find Helen's death and hopefully her parents names is to:

Book into the genealogy centre in Glasgow (long waiting list)

or go through to Edinburgh GRO and just wade your way through all the possible deaths for Helen Daillie (with name variations)

I've searched the 1871 and 1881 census using all the tricks I can think of regarding names, ages, birthplaces etc and can't find any of them in 1871 but a possible for 1881.

Possible, but doesn't tell you much to verify.


1881 Scotland Census
about Mrs. Daily
Name: Mrs. Daily
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/12
Registration district: Gorbals
Civil Parish: Glasgow Gorbals
County: Lanarkshire
ED: 45
Household schedule number: 23
Line: 22
Roll: cssct1881_247
Household Members:
Name Age
Mrs. Daily 60
Margaret McNeil 74
Alex Mayor 28
Ellen Mayor 26
William Mayor 5
Ellen Mayor 3
Agnes Mayor 2
Alexander Mayor Under 1 Mo

Strangely I was at the mitchell yesterday checking the poor law records.Had no luck with Wm or Helen.I'll try again using some dif. spellings etc.when I go to collect copies of some other people's records I ordered.Will give your wild card idea a go too for Helen's death record etc.I only have census up to 61. haven't been able to find any others yet but will try your idea of using the brothers.Will let you know how I get on.Thanks for your help.I really appreciate it.Regards Margaret

have just found william's death cert. under Daly.he died12/2/1867 age 45,address 12 bedford Lane.ParentsSimon Daly and AgnesDaly m.s. Cameron.Can't find Helen yet so maybe she did remarry but I'll keeep trying.Regards margaret.just found mar.cert. for Wm.Lochrie in 1861 hoping to get the Wm in41 census.this Wm however was only26 at marriage so it can't be the same one.Strangely tho' his address was 14 Rutherglen Loan same st. as census.Anyone got any more ideas?Thanks margaret

Thanks Helen and Rootgatherer you are a great help and it is much appreciated.
I only have 41(Wm), 51 and 61(WmandHelen) census results.Have not been able to find any others
.I have IGI for william which only shows the marriage date
Have not been able to find any birth or death results either so far but I'll keep trying.
Your information and suggestions are very helpful.Thanks again Margaret

Just for Interest:


1841 Scotland Census
about Widow Lochrie
Name: Widow Lochrie
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1771
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Gorbals
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Rutherglen Loan
Parish Number: 644/2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Widow Lochrie 70
William Lochrie 15

It's interesting to see the address from this census .... it matches up with the following 1851 census for William and Helen.

Can't see Helen in the 1841 census but her name may have been mistranscribed.

Not many Lochrie's to be found in Glasgow ... or Scotland in the 1841 census.

no luck with 1841 census,only 1 result ( after expanding ages to 40 in the hope that her mother was also called helen and I could catch them both) and that was for a 3year old-not quite ready for marriage in 1845 age 7!!
Thanks anyway for your help. regards Margaret

Thanks rootgatherer.I have already tried scotlandspeople but no luck with births ,mariages or deaths.Will give 1841 census a go and let you know how I get on.regards Margaret

Thanks for your help it's much appreciated. Margaret

This is Helen Lochrie/Daily from the 1851 census and she says she was born c.1826

1851 Scotland Census
about Ellen Daily
Name: Ellen Daily
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarksh
Parish Number: 644/2
Civil Parish: Gorbals
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 41 Rutherglen Loan
ED: 35
Page: 8 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 30
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1851_164
Household Members:
Name Age
William Daily 30
Ellen Daily 25
Wm Daily 4
Peter Daily 9 Mo
Hannah Duncan 19
Peter Duncan 50

Not all children were baptised and Helen may have been one of those.

Or she may have been baptised in one of the other churches (ie. Baptist, Episcopalian or Free church) ... not part of the established church which was the Church of Scotland.

Most of the baptisms found on the IGI and Scotlandspeople will be from the established church records.

Scottish official marriage certificates started in 1855 .... these would have registered ages.

Prior to that it would be Old Parish Records which were church registers ... no ages would have been recorded.

Loking for birth of Helen Lochrie who married William Daily 19/1/1845 gorbals glasgow(fromIGI) the only birth I've found in IGI or SP is of oneborn 30/9/1834 Old monkland lanark. which would make her 11 on Marriage! so obviously not the right one.can anyone help? thanks margaret