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Mary

Mary Report 13 May 2009 16:52

Frank Dunn born @ 1873 died in gateshead 1899
J/A/S V10a page 666.

Maryb

Also another tree has aFrank Norman Dunn 1878-1922 parents were john Dunn and elizabeth Coultard born 1849,daughter of elizabeth 1822 her parents tomothy Coulthard 1795 and margaret.
This frank wasn't yours i don't think but i thought there might be a connection with your Coulthards.

Maryb

Debbie

Debbie Report 13 May 2009 16:53

I have found through my research that cousins have married each other on a few occasions. Once 2 sisters married 2 brothers. So a Dunn/Coulthard connection would not surprise me at all. I will look into that.


Well thank you everyone....

A little mystery solved...

What would we do without you wonderful helpers?

xxx

Astra

Astra Report 13 May 2009 16:54

Yep! Me too. But she couldn't have married Henry unless she was a Widow or the previous marriage was annulled for some reason. Divorce for working class couples was generally out of the question.
So it seems she was a widow and the Frank Dunn posted previously is the wrong one. My apologies for that I should have looked for a death first.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 13 May 2009 16:56

1911 Richards

HOUSEHOLD COULTHARD JOHN RICHARD M 1910 1 Gateshead Durham
HOUSEHOLD COULTHARD RICHARD M 1906 5 Darlington Durham
HOUSEHOLD COULTHARD RICHARD M 1875 36 Stockton Durham
HOUSEHOLD COULTHARD RICHARD M 1903 8 Gateshead Durham
HOUSEHOLD COULTHARD RICHARD M 1909 2 Gateshead Durham
HOUSEHOLD COULTHARD RICHARD M 1895 16 Gateshead Durham
HOUSEHOLD COULTHARD RICHARD M 1891 20 Gateshead Durham
HOUSEHOLD COULTHARD RICHARD M 1902 9 Gateshead Durham

Debbie

Debbie Report 13 May 2009 17:01

Henry had several siblings

Henry, John and James all called their first daughter Frances Gillespie, Horsley after their mum Frances Horsley possibly... not to sure about the Gillespie name but as it featured so often, it may have been a relation, local churchman?

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 13 May 2009 17:03

Here is the transcipt of the 1911 I just had to see it after looking it all up so I spent 10 credits!!!


COULTHARD, HENRY HEAD MARRIED M 32 MINER SPEN DURHAM
COULTHARD, MARY ELIZABETH WIFE MARRIED F 31 HEXHAM NORTHUMBERLAND
COULTHARD, RICHARD SON M 9 BLACK HALL MILL
COULTHARD, FRANCIS DAUGHTER F 8 BLACK HALL MILL
COULTHARD, RACHAEL DAUGHTER F 5 CHOPWELL DURHAM
COULTHARD, MAGGIE DAUGHTER F 3 CHOPWELL DURHAM
COULTHARD, HARRIET DAUGHTER F 2 CHOPWELL DURHAM

This is the address

Address 9 WANSBECK ST CHOPWELL County Durham
District Gateshead Subdistrict Winlaton
Enumeration District 19 Parish Chopwell

Debbie

Debbie Report 13 May 2009 17:06

Mel that is so lovely of you, thank you so much.

As I said, you helpers are so kind. I am usually quite good now, but sometimes I need help with brickwalls....

: - ) xxxxx

Helen

Helen Report 13 May 2009 17:16


1891 England Census
about Mary Elizth Baty
Name: Mary Elizth Baty
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Hexham, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Hexham
Ecclesiastical parish: Hexham
Town: Hexham
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Hexham
Sub-registration district: Hexham
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Baty 43
Mary Baty 40
John Wm Baty 17
Mary Elizth Baty 11
Richard Baty 9
Isaac Baty 6
Edward Baty 4

A possibe

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 13 May 2009 17:20

Did Henry Horsley marry Jane Sarah Lumley?

Helen

Helen Report 13 May 2009 17:21


1901 England Census
about Mary E Dunn
Name: Mary E Dunn
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Hexham, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Eltringham
Ecclesiastical parish: Mickley
Town: Eltringham
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Hexham
Sub-registration district: Bywell
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 127
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hudspeth 35
Elizabeth Hudspeth 33
Ralph Hudspeth 15
George E Hudspeth 11
Annie Hudspeth 7
John Hudspeth 5
Robert Hudspeth 3
Joseph Hudspeth 1
Mary E Dunn 21
Mary E Dunn 2 (Addison, Durham)

Mary

Mary Report 13 May 2009 17:24

Mary Elizabeth Dunn born 1880 in hexham,in 1901 census she is aged 20 and a widow she is a servant for a john Hudspeth a railway plate layer born 1866.
Also with her is Mary Elizabeth Dunn aged 2 born Addison Durham.
So this would fit with her getting married 1898 having child 1899 and frank dying 1899,poor woman.

Maryb

Mary

Mary Report 13 May 2009 17:29

Sorry got in too late with last info.
Mary elizabeth Dunn born @ 1898 died in gateshead 1903.

Maryb

Helen

Helen Report 13 May 2009 17:29


1861 England Census
about John Baty
Name: John Baty
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Hexham, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Hexham
Town: Hexham
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Hexham
Sub-registration district: Hexham
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 49
Household Members:
Name Age
John Baty 40
Elizabeth Baty 36
John Baty 13
Robert Baty 11
Margaret A Baty 7
Edward Baty 5
James Baty 4
Dorathy Baty 3
William Baty 5 Mo

Mary

Mary Report 13 May 2009 17:36

Mary elizabeth 1880,her mum was Mary Foster born @ 1851

Debbie

Debbie Report 13 May 2009 17:43

My goodness...

Yes Henry Horsely was married to Sarah Lumley.

He was a very unfortunate chap.... leaving a public house one evening, he was attacked and left for dead, he died 3 days later in his brother house, leaving Sarah with 5 children and 1 on the way... His wife gave birth the evening he was attacked so was unable to be with him at the end...