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hi have been looking at the marriage of emma lester in march 1853 in w derby but there is a bridegroom missing however i have looked it up on ancesrty & there was a john
richmond married in w derby in march 1853 so i think this could be emma.s hubby & sarah.s father wonder where jane got ralph from

jane can you tell me where you got the name ralph from as sarah.s father

jacky

1841 England Census
Name: Thomas Lester
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Tutbury
Hundred: North Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: Monk Street

Occupation: Shoemaker

Registration district: Burton upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Tutbury
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Lester 50
Sarah Lester 50
Mary Lester 25 - Cotton Spinner
Sarah Lester 15 - Cotton Spinner
Charlotte Lester 15 - Cotton Spinner
Thomas Lester 14
Emma Lester 10 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Joseph Lester 8
George Lester 7 Mo

There's also a Henry Lester 9 who's out of order on the list. He comes last after a Thomas Brown who's possibly a lodger. The next household is a William Lester & family, 30, shoemaker.

Here's Thomas.

1851 England Census
Name: Thomas Lester
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1789
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Abbott Brough, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Tutbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Lichfield Tutbury
Town: Tutbury
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: 15 Monk St

Occupation: Boot & shoe maker


Registration district: Burton Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Tutbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 15b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Lester 62
Sarah Lester 62 - Birmingham, Warwickshire
George Lester 10 - son, Tutbury

jane
ithink this could be emma with parents & sibling s


1841 England Census
about Emma Lester
Name: Emma Lester
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Female
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Tutbury
Hundred: North Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Burton upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Tutbury
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Lester 50
Sarah Lester 50
Mary Lester 25
Sarah Lester 15
Charlotte Lester 15
Thomas Lester 14
Emma Lester 10
Joseph Lester 8
George Lester 7 Mo


but still no ralph & can.t find marriage either

thanks ozibird
but jane is wanting infomation before 1855 but i can.t find ralph ggerrrr lol but looking for emma

Good one, Jacky.

a possible for emma & sarah in 1871


1871 England Census
about Sarah Richmond
Name: Sarah Richmond
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Female
Where born: Tutbury, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Tutbury
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Burton Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Tutbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Richmond 40 ( widower )
Sarah Richmond 16
Thomas Lester 83

Is this her? Why I'm asking is that we have to find out where she was born.

Marriages Mar 1877
Brown Maria Derby 7b 541
Byron John Derby 7b 541
Downs John Samuel Derby 7b 541
Richmond Sarah Hammersley Derby 7b 541
Shaw Thomas Derby 7b 541

for ref

Births Mar 1855 (>99%)
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Richmond Sarah Hammersley Burton 6b 252


The district Burton is an alternative name for Burton upon Trent and it spans the boundaries of the counties of Derbyshire and Staffordshire;

where did she live or where was she born? and where does the Hammersley come in?

Can anyone help with tracing any further back from this lady.

Mother - Emma Lester
Father - Ralph Richmond 1819-55 d of pnuemonia.

Thanks
Jane ggggdaughter