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Star1 and Vera

Thank you very much for the information you have found for me. Truly appreciated!

Laura
xox

Laura

Yes of course i will let you know what i find out at the records office when i visit.

I reckon there could well be a connection somewhere between my James Burgess and your Thomas Burgess.

Regards
Paul

Paul

Please let me know what you find at the records office. Thomas Burgess born Oct 27 1776 was born in Whitchurch also. Would be interested to find if there is a connection somewhere in the line.

Regards,

Laura

Laura

A contact of mine told me a James Burgess was baptised in Whitchurch 16th June 1799 to William & Sarah.

Seeing as there are no James Burgess candidates c1803 in Overton i reckon the above James is the most likely candidate.

Thanks for that info on where to look at the records. I shall pay a visit to the archives as i am about an hours drive away.

Regards
Paul

Paul

To continue you would need to know the name of at least 1 parent.

I dont know where u live but the only place to get records is at the Hampshire Records Office in Winchester. That is where they keep all of Hampshire church records.

The records I looked at are quite good and complete.

Laura

Hello Laura

Yes that is correct. My James Burgess married Jane Blackburn 5/12/1833 in Overton.

Two separate contacts of mine gave me James Burgess death in Overton in 1835 age 32. The James Burgess born 1814 is about 11 years later than my James.

There was a James Burgess baptised in Whitchurch in 1799. Perhaps he is my James ?

Regards
Paul

Thank you.

I found the marriage record at the Hampshire Records Office in Winchester when I was there 2 weeks ago.

Married 9 Nov 1819 Overton

Laura

Laura

The only baptism in the Indexes for a Rachel PRIMER is this one:-
27 April 1774-Rachel d Elizabeth PRIMER

There is not an earlier marriage for her and the one to Thomas does not appear in the Index

p.s.

Paul

James Burgess born 1814 married on 5 Dec. 1833 to Jane Blackburn in Overton.

Laura

Paul,

Yes. James was born in Overton on 22 Feb 1807 and died in July 1807. However, another boy was born and he was named James as well on 22 May 1814 in Overton.

Could this be the same? You have the dates wrong.

I recently travelled to England and went to Hampshire Records Office in Winchester and this is where I discovered this information.

Mother was Rachael Simpson......Thomas Burgess and Rachael Simpson married on 4 April 1804. They did have a son named John born in 1803 out of wedlock.

Let me know if this is the same.

Thanks

Laura
Ottawa Canada

Hello

My GGG Grandfather was James Burgess. He married in Overton in 1833. James died in Overton in 1835 age 32.

Perhaps my James is related to Thomas Burgess ?

Has anyone come across a James Burgess baptism c1803 in Overton ?

Paul

Name: Esther Taylor
Spouse: Thos Burgess
Marriage Date: 1792
Parish: Overton

Marriage of Thomas Burgess to Esther Taylor.

Hampshire: - Register of Marriages, 1586-1812
Marriages at Overton. 1640 to 1812.
Volume 4.
County: Hampshire
Country: England
80. John Taylor & Hester Girdler 25 Dec 1784

Here is a record of marriage in 1784 for Hesther Girdler marrying a John TAYLOR...she was a widow when she married Thomas!

As to Thomas marrying a woman 14 years older is maybe not too unusual. Maybe he had a hard life at home and she offered comfort, who knows. Women married older men LOL!

I saw a Esther Girdler and an Esther Taylor marrying a Thomas Burgess in Overton in same year! Pallott's Marriage Records.

Laura

Thomas married 3 times all in Overton:

1) Esther Girdler or Taylor in 1792 (I saw Taylor in one record is it the same?..she might have been married before she married Thomas?) I found 2 children with her Thomas 1796 and Timothy in abt 1800 cant find records
2) Rachael Simpson in 1804 9 children with her
3) Rachel Primer in 1819

I believe he died in 1841 at the age of 65 in Overton. Makes sense bcse he was deceased on his son's Charles marriage certificate.

He had children with Esther, and Rachael simpson, I found those in Hampshire Records office. Esther I did not know about.

Thanks for your hard work

Laura

Esther GIRDLER was baptised at Crondall 03 March 1765 d George & Esther

It must be two different Thomas Burgess' as the one born in 1776 would not be marrying at 16 a woman 11 years his senior-would he ?

Are the Ancestry entries "submitted" or "extracted" ?

I have the Hampshire Indexes
Marriages 1754-1837
Baptisms 1752-1841
Buriels 1400-1837

This is what I can find - just to confuse you !!

I have ancestors from Overton and I believe the Overton registers are incomplete before 1833 !

Marriage 20 October 1792 at Overton
Thomas BURGESS & Esther TAYLOR (it says but I could not find a baptism for an Esther Taylor so will check Girldler !)

Children of Esther & Thomas Burgess baptised at Overton
26 May 1793-Mary
05 Oct 1794-Thomas
28 Mar 1796-Alice
26 Nov 1797-Elizabeth
19 May 1799-Thomas
15 Dec 1801-Caroline

Buriels
15 Dec 1801-Esther
21 Jan 1802-Caroline inf

Marriage 05 April 1804 at Overton
Thomas BURGESS & Rachel SIMPSON

Children of Thomas & Rache(a)el Burgess baptised at Overton
17 Sep 1803-John Burgess/Simpson s Thomas Burgess & Rachel Simpson
10 Jan 1806-Sarah
22 Feb 1807-James
21 Jul 1809-Anne ..............born 19 July
13 May 1811-Septimus .... born 08 May
23 Mar 186-Charles
22 Jun 1817-George

Buriels
13 Jul 1807-James inf
29 Oct 1817-Thomas 54

Is this the same Thomas marrying twice ? - if so I cannot find a baptism for a Thomas to fit !

Husband
WILLIAM BURGESS Pedigree


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1. THOMAS BURGESS Pedigree
Male

Birth:
Christening: About 27 OCT 1776 Whitchurch, Hampshire, England
Death:
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OMG!

Thank you so much, how do you find the information? I was on ancestry and nothing came up for me.

I noticed that he died in Whitchurch and the birth of his children and marriages to both Rachels were in Overton. Hampshire records show Overton. Strange.

Thanks again

Laura xox

Esther Girdler .......THOMASS 1ST WIFE HE WAS 16 WEN WED
SHE WAS IN 30S

Birth: 1762
Overton, Hampshire, , England
Death:
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