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Hi Christine
Many thanks for all the info and the help
if there a mistake on louisa bithe cert
theres nothing i can do know i know
i can carry on

Many thanks again
Carol

Hi Barbara
Many Thanks for the info i will have to take
it as a mistake and carry on

Many Thanks Again

Carol

What I was saing is that Ann seems to be the same from 1871-1901 so I would have thought that there is only one Ann and no 2nd marriage.

If there was then her age and birthplace should have changed between 1871 and 1881.

1871 Wales Census
about Ann Roberts
Name: Ann Roberts
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Aber, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Civil parish: Llandegai

1881 Wales Census
about Anne Roberts
Name: Anne Roberts
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John T.
Gender: Female
Where born: Aber, Caernarvonshire, Wales

Civil parish: Llandegai

1891 Wales Census
about Anne Roberts
Name: Anne Roberts
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John T
Gender: Female
Where born: Aber, Caernarvonshire, Wales

1901 Wales Census
about Anne Roberts
Name: Anne Roberts
Age in 1901: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Aber, Caernarvonshire, Wales

Civil parish: Llandegai

Christine

1891 census
Ann still the same one born in the same place and the correct age
It seems that the mistake is on the birth cert for Louisa
Name: Anne Roberts
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John T
Gender: Female
Where born: Aber, Caernarvonshire, Wales

Civil parish: Llandegai
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandegai
County/Island: Caernarvonshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Bangor
Sub-registration district: Llanllechid
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John T Roberts 62
Anne Roberts 48
Thomas E Roberts 17
Kate Roberts 15
Margaret Roberts 13
Louisa Roberts 12
Benjamin Roberts 12
Annie Roberts 1

Hi christine
what info you have given me in 1899 john died
at the age of 67 so he would of been 71 in 1901
with the age gap could this be ann thomas
Many Thanks
Carol

Maybe it was a mistake on Louise's birth cert.

It's highly unlikely that John would marry again and his wife would be born in exactly the same place and be the same age, especially as she was a good few years younger than him, but this is just my opinion.


1901 Wales Census
about Anne Roberts
Name: Anne Roberts
Age in 1901: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Aber, Caernarvonshire, Wales

Civil parish: Llandegai
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandegai St Tegai
County/Island: Caernarvonshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Bangor
Sub-registration district: Llanllechid
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 144
Household Members: Name Age
Anne Roberts 58
Kate Roberts 25
Louie Roberts 22
Benjamin Roberts 22
John Arthur Edwards 8 nephew
David Owen Davies 25 boarder
Maggie Davies 23 boarder

Christine

Hi Christine
I do have some of the birth certs but why have 7 children
under ann williams and having other 2 children with the
mothers name as ann thomas

Thanks Caol

Hi Soblan
Answer to your question is yes
Carol

Do you actually have the certs or are have you been given the information by someone else?

If you look at Ann in all the census years she does seem to be the same person.

Christine

carol
the certificate you have for louise,is it the same ref as the twins births found ?

Hi Christinei
What info i have is Mary, Tudor, Thomas E and Catherine
comes under Ann Williams not 100% on Margaret but ive
been told that she comes under Ann Thomas as is Benjamin
and Louisa
Thanks Carol

yes i think so too christine,looking at what you found
the first child was born bangor and so where the twins

Births Mar 1863 (>99%)
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ROBERTS Mary Bangor 11b 503

I don't think there was a 2nd marriage as Ann seems to be about the same age in all census years and born the same place.

1891 Wales Census
about Anne Roberts
Name: Anne Roberts
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John T
Gender: Female
Where born: Aber, Caernarvonshire, Wales

Civil parish: Llandegai
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandegai
County/Island: Caernarvonshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Bangor
Sub-registration district: Llanllechid
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John T Roberts 62
Anne Roberts 48
Thomas E Roberts 17
Kate Roberts 15
Margaret Roberts 13
Louisa Roberts 12
Benjamin Roberts 12
Annie Roberts 1 grandaughter.

Do you have birth certs for all the children?

Christine

Hi to you all
Many thanks for all your info and help
im going to ring Anglesey to see if
they have the marriage

Thank you all again
Carol

Marriages Jun 1875 (>99%)
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Roberts John Anglesey 11b 899
Thomas Ann Anglesey 11b 899

The district Anglesey is an alternative name for Anglesey and it is in the county of Anglesey

is this the first marriage ???
Marriages Dec 1862 (>99%)
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Parry Mary Bangor 11b 949
Roberts John Bangor 11b 949
ROBERTS William Samuel Bangor 11b 949
Williams Anne Bangor 11b 949


The district Bangor spans the boundaries of the counties of Anglesey, Caernarvonshire and Gwynedd;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1879 (>99%)
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Roberts Benjamin Bangor 11b 522
Roberts Louisa Bangor 11b 522

richchet found the marriage .that could be the right one

For ref.

1881 Wales Census
about Benjamin Roberts
Name: Benjamin Roberts
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John T.
Mother's Name: Anne
Gender: Male
Where born: Llandegai, Caernarvonshire, Wales

Civil parish: Llandegai
County/Island: Caernarvonshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: Llandegai Village
Education: View image
Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bangor
Sub-registration district: Bangor
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John T. Roberts 50
Anne Roberts 38 Aber, Caernarvonshire
Mary Roberts 18
Tudor Roberts 15
Anne Roberts 12
Elizabeth Roberts 10
Thomas E. Roberts 8
Catherine Roberts 5
Margaret Roberts 3
Benjamin Roberts 2
Louisa Roberts 2

Looks like the same Ann to me as birthplace is the same.

Name: Ann Roberts
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Aber, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Civil parish: Llandegai
Town: Llandegai
County/Island: Caernarvonshire
Country: Wales

Disability: View image
Registration district: Bangor
Sub-registration district: Bangor
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 41
Household Members: Name Age
John Roberts 41
Ann Roberts 29
Mary Roberts 8
John Roberts 6
Tudyr Roberts 4
Ann Roberts 3
Elizabeth Roberts 8 months

Christine

you may have the wrong louise .If they were twins they would be on the census,I have looked at the same census and there are no twins
have you found Benjamin??and what is his birth date ?