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Only just started looking at this. Polly/Pollie was an alternative name for Mary, I have on in my own family, took me years to resolve.

Robert, you say you order a birth cert on 1st August - whose was that and what did it say?

Margaret

"death of Polly Dixon 3rd qr 1928" -- what was her age at death?


Some odd entries in the 1911 -- searching for surname NELL* in Hemsworth:

NELL FRANK 1887 24 Hemsworth Yorkshire West Riding

NELLIE [no given name shown in results] 1905 6 Hemsworth Yorkshire West Riding
NELLIE DOROTHY 1910 1 Hemsworth Yorkshire West Riding
NELLIE WALTER 1910 9 MONTHS Hemsworth Yorkshire West Riding


The NELL is not in the same household as the NELLIEs.


Living with the NELLIEs:

HILL ARTHUR 1878 33 Hemsworth Yorkshire West Riding
MURRAY ARTHUR 1909 2 Hemsworth Yorkshire West Riding
MURRAY HANNAH 1880 31 Hemsworth Yorkshire West Riding
MURRAY ROBERT 1874 37 Hemsworth Yorkshire West Riding
MURRAY ROBERT 1907 4 Hemsworth Yorkshire West Riding
MIDDLETON EARNEST 1902 9 Hemsworth Yorkshire West Riding
MIDDLETON JOHN 1866 45 Hemsworth Yorkshire West Riding
MIDDLETON LILLY 1881 30 Hemsworth Yorkshire West Riding
MIDDLETON PRISCILLA 1903 8 Hemsworth Yorkshire West Riding


and I have to run and will leave you with that oddment! I'm wondering about the NELLIEs being NELLES-s ...

Might he have gone by a middle name?


1911

PARKER ERNEST 1892 19 Hemsworth Yorkshire West Riding


Either he was Norman Ernest who went by Ernest or he was Ernest Norman who went by Norman ...


Only likely looking birth ...

Births Mar 1889
Parker Ernest Norman Chesterton 3b 447

But no, he's in the 1911:

PARKER ERNEST NORMAN 1889 22 Chesterton Cambridgeshire


And this is the Hemsworth Ernest's birth:

Births Mar 1892
Parker Ernest Hemsworth 9c 140

could Doreen actually be DORIS sister of Norman?

do you have the marriage cert of Norman and Pollie Dixon? although 16 a bit young to get married

I wonder whether Susan Nelles wasn't a partner after Mary/Pollie Dixon's death, or at least after Dorothy's birth.

A child born to a man with a woman other than his wife would not be registered with his wife as the mother.

It's different in the case of a child born to a woman with a man other than her husband -- the presumption of legitimacy says that the woman's husband is the father. But it wouldn't make sense to say that the man's wife was the mother, when she pretty plainly wasn't. ;)

So Susan Nelles may have been the stepmother. Unfortunately, I don't see any birth for a Susan Nelles, or marriage of a Susan to a Nelles. One might expect that Norman and Susan would have married after Mary/Pollie's death -- but Susan might have been married.

1901

Name: Norman Parker
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John W
Mother's Name: Emma E
Gender: Male
Where born: Harrogate, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Harrogate
Ecclesiastical parish: Harrogate St Luke
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Knaresborough
Sub-registration district: Harrogate
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 143
Household Members:
Name Age
John W Parker 40
Emma E Parker 33
Albert V Parker 11
Stanley Parker 5
Doris Parker 3
Norman Parker 1

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An update which has me more confused ... had 14 day Ancestry and searched for births for my late mil and only found one with same date and father received bc from GRO based on search and have name basically same (middle name on bc Elsie not Elise as on other docs marriage lic etc) I attribute this to possibly a personal choice later in life, father same Norman Ernest Parker (however his occupation is listed as "butcher's assistant") he was a clerk in the govt when my wife knew him, possibly job change. Mother listed as Mary Parker formerly Dixon.
Based on all the similarities would it be safe to assume that I have the correct bc and that possibly as I have outlined above that Mary died and Norman lived common law with Mary Nelles as I can find no marriage between Parker and Nelles. Any suggestions from those great brains out there.

Robert

That was my thought I have searched after 1928 looking for a marriage Parker/Nelles with different spellings but can't find any. There was also a mention of an aunt Sally Angus with a daughter of Doreen. As my wife was an only child she has no known living relatives other than our immediate family so it like searching for a needle in a haystack or as in Wayne/Tracy.thread an Eedle in a Haystack

Aug 1 Have ordered bc from GRO hope it works

Robert

Is there any way to narrow a birth in 1923. I have a Dorothy Elise Stephenson nee Parker b Aug 20 1923, in either Leeds or Knaresboro, in my tree. My wife, her daughter was always led to believe that her (Dorothy's) father was Norman Ernest Parker (confirmed by marriage cert) and (this is the puzzle) her mother was Susan Nelles??. Upon checking FREEBMD I found a birth 3rd Qr 1923 which corresponds except that mother's maiden name Dixon. Checking back further I found a marriage Norman Parker to Pollie Dixon 2nd qr 1916in Hemsworth. There is also a record of a death of Polly Dixon 3rd qr 1928. Before ordering birth certificate of Dorothy I would like to confirm if this is the same person.

Robert