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apolgies to margaret manson & other members i mistakenly placed the following on the tips board have deleted that & correctly placed on here
has anyone any suggestions on how to trace kerenhappuck davy formerly gowing
it has been suggested as a poss that she was born to german /jewish parents in norfolk then at some time was cared for by a gowing family i have kerenhappuck loch or loche married elijah davy c1827 norfolk
i have one of her daughters children emma davy born 1838 norfolk birth cert
on the 1871 census she is listed as catherine davy {not kerenhappuck]
w ith her family also with them is emma ranson aged 13 niece {my great grandmother charlotte ranson nee gowings daughter}

David,

It is kerenhappuch LOTCH


DAVEY, Elijah Marriage
Wife: Kerenhappuch LOTCH
Marriage Date: 30 Jul 1827 Recorded in: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Source: FHL Film 1526456 Dates: 1806 - 1848

I believe Charlottes father on the first marriage was down as Silversmith.....forgive me if I am not being correct but is that not an occupation that perhaps was common in the Jewish trades., Maybe her father was also a Lotch but "adopted" or used the name Gowing ?

I've just come across this birth on BVRI:

DAVEY, Rosetta Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 28 Mar 1831 Recorded in: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: Elijah DAVEY
Mother: Kerenhappuck
Source: FHL Film 1526328 Dates: 1769 - 1833

hi brenda
hope you are well
yes you are correct on charlottes first marr cert fathers occ given as silversmith
maybe some more porkies being told
i will await catherine davys death cert if no more leads from that will give up on it as u know had enough of that with jane postans
regards
david

margaret
thank you for that info appreciated

Another possible death but this time in Yarmouth...where all the children were born.

Deaths Jun 1843
DAVY Catherine Yarmouth 13 268

Deaths Dec 1848
Davey Elijah Yarmouth 13 247


Some of their children are in the workhouse in 1851 I believe.

moody blue
thank you again
i will send for catherines 1843 deatth cert
thank you for always helping with this
david

can someone please look up the census except 1841
for david gowing born mickfield suffolk 1791
possible occupation silversmith

i have recieved the death cert this morning for catherine davy
she died in 1843 a workhouse in great yarmouth norfolk
she was 40 years old
i would like to search for more details on her therefor could someone please advise on how i look at workhouses for more details
is there a website for this please

1851 census

Name: David Gowing
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lucy A
Gender: Male
Where born: Backford, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Mickfield
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Bosmere
Sub-registration district: Coddenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
David Gowing 60
Lucy A Gowing 59
Mary Redgrave 20
Sarah Walner 19
John Ward 19


Unrelated people are servants

1861 census

Name: David Gowing
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: Brockford, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Mickfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Bosmere
Sub-registration district: Coddenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
David Gowing 70
Lucy Gowing 63
Hannah Rumsey 17
Maria Stannard 17
William Berry 17

freewheel
thank you
has anyone any suggestions regarding searchin for a workhouse

someone has found details on workhouses so no longer need those details thank you
im now trying to trace anyone with the norfolk discs that will cover st nicholas parish registers great yarmouth from 1800 until 1830
can anyone assist with this please
is there anyone out there that has this parish on a disc please or can advise / suggest where i can purchase norfolk disc with st nicholas great yarmouth appreciate any help with this

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additional info:

From this:
http://www.archives.norfolk.gov.uk/documents/pdf/NRO018_Ancestor_from_GY.pdf




There was only one parish church in Great Yarmouth - St Nicholas - until 1714. In that year St George's Chapel was founded but it has no separate registers until the late 19th century: before that all Anglican baptisms, marriages and burials in Great Yarmouth are to be found in the Great Yarmouth St Nicholas registers



From the 17th century, there was a workhouse in Great Yarmouth Market Place. A new workhouse was built in 1839, now the Northgate Hospital. No admission or discharge records are known to have survived for either workhouse, but there are Workhouse Master's reports, 1869-71 and 1902-4, (reference Y/WE 298-299) and a list of people in the Workhouse, c. 1938-40 (Y/WE 300).
Poor Law Guardians' minutes survive 1837-42, 1859-61, 1889-91, 1910-30 (see list Y/WE). Guardians' minutes up to c. 1850 do mention names of paupers, but after this date individuals are named much less frequently.

moody blue thank you again

its poss that he is the unmarried father of charlotte if anyone can trace her with him please let me know she was born 1823
her mother is kerenhappuck lotch or loche

i believe my charlotte was born to karenhappuck lotch or loche in great yarmouth norfolk 1822 -23 her mother was unmarried at the time
charlottes birth surname given as gowing any info on how to trace her birth in great yarmouth norfolk