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Yes Ginny - the 1891 1nd 1901 census are Paul's parents and siblings. (Albert's grandparents)

Paul then had Albert in 1905.

Dea x

Dea

that 1901 census looks like Alberts dad and his family...is that what you meant

Ginny
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Ha, fantastic. Dads name was Paul G so it makes sense that it could have been changed around.

Getting there....

Ginny
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WWWoooww Colin !!!

I think we may just have found them?????

Dea x

P.S. - Have checked 'Albert' and he DOES have the middle initian 'G' (probably Garnet) !!

Births Mar 1905 (>99%)
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Breitenfeldt Albert G T Northampton 3b 69


Dea x

Strange, On 1901, his mother has died and his father has changed his name slightly, but it has to be him???

1901 England Census
about Garnet P Breitenfeld
Name: Garnet P Breitenfeld
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's Name: August A
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Northampton All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: St Katharine
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England



Registration district: Northampton
Sub-registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 100
Household Members: Name Age
August A Breitenfeld 66
Anna Breitenfeld 20
>>>>>>>>>Garnet P Breitenfeld 19 Leather Dresser
Frederick W Breitenfeld 14
Lily D Breitenfeld 12



Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1427; Folio: 13; Page: 17.

Dea x

Well - this would be Paul's birth:

Paul Garnet Breitenfeld 1883 Jan-Feb-Mar London, Middlesex

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On 1891 he was using his middle name - I wonder if he still used that when he travelled to Canada?



1891 England Census
about Garnet Breitenfeld
Name: Garnet Breitenfeld
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Albert
Mother's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Kingsthorpe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Kingsthorpe
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England



Registration district: Northampton
Sub-registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Breitenfeld 51 born Berlin
Fanny Breitenfeld 44
Earnest Breitenfeld 16
Theresa Breitenfeld 14
Anna Breitenfeld 9
>>>>>>>>>>Garnet Breitenfeld 8 *********
Frederick Breitenfeld 3
Dorothy Breitenfeld 1


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1200; Folio 132; Page 40; GSU roll: 6096310.

Dea x

Thanks Dea, I thought I was all on my lonesome!

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Well, this is Sylvia on 1911. - As already suggested, she was a 'REDBOURNE' !

HOUSEHOLD REDBOURNE SYLVIA F 1908 3 Leeds Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD REDBOURNE ALFRED M 1911 3 MONTHS Leeds Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD REDBOURNE CHRISTOPHER M 1887 24 Leeds Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD REDBOURNE MARY F 1889 22 Leeds Yorkshire West Ri ding

Dea x

Margery

do you think that due WW1 looming, Albert could have used another name when crossing to Canada?

ive looked under his mothers name but there are soooo many Browns!

Ginny
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German Phone Directories, 1915-1981 (in German)

Name: Albert Breitenfeldt
Residence: 1936 - Berlin, Berlin

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German Phone Directories, 1915-1981 (in German)

Directories & Member Lists
Name: Albert Breitenfeldt
Residence: 1939 - Berlin, Berlin

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German Phone Directories, 1915-1981 (in German)

Directories & Member Lists
Name: Albert Breitenfeldt
Residence: 1941 - Berlin, Berlin

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Im posting this for my benefit really so I can look back without searching for it!

Marriages Mar 1904 (>99%)
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Breitenfeldt Paul G Northampton 3b 92
Brown Violet Elizabeth M Northampton 3b 92


Name: Violet M Breitenfeldt
Spouse Surname: Lever
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1918
Registration district: Hardingstone
Registration county (inferred): Northamptonshire
Volume Number: 3b
Page Number: 69
Find Spouse: William G Lever




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This is thanks to mgnv as I looked with the lead...

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924
about Albert Thomas Breitenfeld
Name: Albert Thomas Breitenfeld
Birth Place: Northamptonshire England
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Father Name: Parent Names Not Known Dead
Mother Name: Parent Names Not Known Dead
Spouse Name: Sylvia Redbowrne
Spouse's Age: 17
Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1907
Spouse Birth Place: Leeds England
Spouse Father Name: Christopher John Redbowrne
Spouse Mother Name: Sarah Mary Thompson
Marriage Date: 16 Aug 1924
Marriage Place: Wentworth Christ Church Cathedral Hamilton
Marriage County: Wentworth
Registration district: Wentworth
Family History Library Microfilm: VRMCAN1923_102616

It also states that the groom is methodist and I think occupation says stationer..not sure its hard to read.

Wittenesses Jack Robinson and Kathleen Thompson

Birth place of grooms father states London

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There is a 1924 Ontario marr of Albert Thomas Breitenfeld b 1905, but I don't have an Ancestry sub.
View Record Sylvia Redbowrne year date Albert Thomas Breitenfeld location
[presumably Redbourne]

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~onvsr/
only has one marr, so Albert not transcribed yet:

020806-22 (Waterloo Co) Frederick William BREITENFELD, 33, shoemaker, London England, 28 Scott St. St. Thomas, s/o Albert BREITENFELD (b. England) & Fannie SMITH married Violet Agnes ROWE, 32, shoe fitter, Bedfordshire England, Galt, spinster, d/o John W. ROWE (b. England) & Mary SCOTT, witn: Frances E. ROWE & Nelson W. WEST both of Galt, 7 June 1922 in Galt.
[Abt 30 y ago, Galt and some neighbouring villages were joined and renamed Cambridge]

Nearby Kitchener (Berlin until WW1) was a centre of the Canadian German Mennonite community.

I didn't find these guys on the 1911 census. One way to search this census is to start at Ancestry, where I can look for Albert s/o Paul to see how Breitenfeldt might be transcribed, then check (different transcription, I think) at:
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/index.html
If I'd gotten a hit, at the top of the transcribed page I'ld see something like:
1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Waterloo South / 14 Galt / page 1 split view
I'ld click on "split view" to see the original. I've never been able to satisfactorarily save any of AG's images, so next I'ld go to:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/index-e.html
and drill down to find the URL for a 1911 geographic search:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1911/index-e.html
and thence I'ld save the image - but, like I said, I found nowt.

this is the record to say he returned to this country.
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/browse/view.aspx?dbid=1518&iid=30807_A001216-00679&pid=17718872&ssrc=&fn=Albert+T&ln=Breitnfeld&st=g

Thanks Ginny
These are the same records I found, he came back on thre Mauretania in 1946, as I have these records from Ancestry, but its the departure that is puzzling me as he had to get over there somehow and it must have been by boat

His mother was Violet Elizabeth Maud she is on 1911 census living with Albert and William (Sons) and WIlliam Lever, my granddad, she married William Lever in 1918, there were other children by my granddad but they had the surname of Breitenfeldt, so I assume that she was still married to Paul up to that time, even though i have no knowledge of any divorce records, its all a mystery

Have you found his mother on 1911?

Was she Violet Elizabeth M or Clara??

Dea x

Margery

Im in the same boat hun, I cant find him either

Name: Albert G T Breitenfeldt
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Northampton (1837-1923)
County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 69 (click to see others on page)

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Albert Breitenfeldt born 1905 in Northampton, in 1911 he wsa no longer living with his mother and there is no mention of his father (Paul)

What name is it that you are looking for hun?

And yes you are looking in the correct part of Ancestry (if thats what youre using) but sometimes its hard to pick them up for a variety of reasons

Keep trying, you'll find them or someone else will

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I am new to this.
I have found records of one of my relatives returning from Canada in 1946, but can't find any records of him leaving the country which I believe he did as a young child with his father. Can someone tell me where I am going wrong or should i be looking in records other than immigration/emigration.
Any help or advice will be appreciated