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Eileen

Eileen Report 27 Aug 2009 16:17

Yesterday I saw the name Rootgatherer in some answers and tried to post a question to her/ him. I don't know where the question ended up but i don't see it in any of the lists. My apologies to whoever got the question and I'd like to start again.
I have a marriage certificate for my maternal g.grandparents which gives the names of their fathers but I am stuck there and not sure how to get on.
Robert Seagrey b.1837 married Esther Hughes b.1843 in 1873.
Their fathers are Peter Seagrey and John Hughes. I'd be so grateful for a push in the right direction!
Many thanks, Eileen

Alan

Alan Report 27 Aug 2009 16:21

I think you may have clicked on the name "Rootgatherer" and sent a personal message.
To respond openly......click on the purple REPLY button above your 'post'

Pre 1837 events are usually found by searching Parish and Church Records many of which can be found at "familysearch.org"

Eileen

Eileen Report 27 Aug 2009 16:25

Thanks, Alan.

Alan

Alan Report 27 Aug 2009 16:27

You found the REPLY button..............off you go to familysearch................its free.

Alan

Alan Report 27 Aug 2009 16:33

Do you have this 1881 census info ?

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Robert SEAGREY Head M Male 44 Eyhoem, Surrey, England Pensioner (Commercial) Clerk
Esther SEAGREY Wife M Female 38 Haverfordwest, Pembroke, Wales
Esther SEAGREY Daur Female 7 Wrexham, Denbigh, Wales Scholar
Robt. H. K. SEAGREY Son Male 6 Wrexham, Denbigh, Wales Scholar
John F. O. SEAGREY Son Male 3 Wrexham, Denbigh, Wales


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Source Information:
Dwelling 1 College St
Census Place Wrexham Regis, Denbigh, Wales
Family History Library Film 1342327
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5520 / 4
Page Number 2

Potty

Potty Report 27 Aug 2009 16:35

Have you tried looking for them on the 1871/61/51 census? Or on freebmd for their births? Esther should be there; Robert might be if he was born at the end of 1837.

Just done a quick check and Robert only appears under Seagray in 1881 and 1891. Probably mistranscribed before that. POB is Egham Surrey and in 1881 they are living in Wales.

Eileen

Eileen Report 27 Aug 2009 16:53

Thanks for so much info. I will check these. Thank you AlanOnThe Wirral and Potty.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 9 Sep 2009 22:55

Eileen, re your new thread:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1176647

It would be best to delete that one.

You can use the "Edit" link in the lower left corner of the first post in this thread to change the heading. It would be more useful if it said something like:

Peter Seagrey c1750, Wales? son Robert 1837

or some such. ;)

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 9 Sep 2009 23:02

Are you in touch with the other people here at GR who have Seagrey in their trees?

For instance, a couple of other people have Esther 1870, and one other has Robert 1836 "Eyhoem" (a mistranscription on the census), and there are various of his children. Just search trees for Seagrey, no other details, if you don't know these other members.


Now that I think about it, re your other post: how likely is it that someone born c1750 was the father of someone born c1837??

You have 1800 for him in your tree, and even that might be overstating his age.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Sep 2009 23:03

1841 poss

Name: Robert Segery
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Gender: Male

Civil parish: Egham
Hundred: Godley (Second Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Windsor
Sub-registration district: Egham
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Segery 3

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1074; Book: 11; Civil Parish: Egham; County: Surrey; Enumeration District: 11; Folio: 51; Page: 3; Line: 19; GSU roll: 474662.


Appears to be with Robert and Dinah Pickett

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 9 Sep 2009 23:07

Ancestry is such a moron. Yes, a 3-yr-old is in his own household ...

The rest of the household is:

Robert Pickett 40
Dinah Pickett 40
Emelie Pickett 15
Charles Pickett 12
Maria Pickett 5

He would be some relation, possibly but not likely a nurse child.

Oops, you edited to add, GB.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 Sep 2009 23:11

connection perhaps

ROBERT SEGERY Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 13 DEC 1776

Christening: 29 DEC 1776 Egham, Surrey, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JAMES SEGERY Family
Mother: ELIZABETH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 9 Sep 2009 23:13

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/igi/search_igi.asp?

Search for

SEGERY surname
in British Isles, England, Surrey

no other details.

You will get a list of people and events, with various spellings, mainly in Egham, who are all undoubtedly your family.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 Sep 2009 23:15

1881 - this may be a connection - it is the right area of Wales

David HUGHES Head M Male 61 Clydei, Pembroke, Wales Iron Weigher
Esther HUGHES Wife M Female 40 Narberth, Pembroke, Wales
Daniel J. HUGHES Son Male 1 Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales


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Source Information:
Dwelling 3 Gorsfach
Census Place Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Family History Library Film 1342295
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5371 / 93
Page Number 21

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 9 Sep 2009 23:17

Ann o' GG, if I do this:


Robert Seagrey Compact Disc #131 Pin #3428524 Pedigree
Sex: M
Birth: 1837
EYHOEM, SURREY
Marriage(s)
Spouse: Esther Disc #131 Pin #3428000

Will you delete that huge long post full of bumph? Scrolling through all that is just such a pain in a thread. And it also isn't the greatest idea to publish the third party's name and address here, just on principle.

Note that these are merely submitted records, and the marriage itself (which I think is known to Eileen) is in the GRO, available at FreeBMD.

I'm still doubtful that someone born 1776 is the parent of someone born c1837. That's 60 years. An intervening generation is likely.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 Sep 2009 23:17

Roch is just outside Haverfordwest - my sister used to live there!!

John HUGHES (AFN: 1N08-J2N) Pedigree
Sex: M Family


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Event(s)
Birth: 1782

Christening: 27 Jan 1782
Roch, Pembroke, Wales

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Parents
Father: Abel HUGHES (AFN: 1N08-RPS) Family
Mother: Elizabeth DAVID (AFN: 1N08-JG5)


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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Elizabeth DAVIES (AFN: 1N08-J3V) Family
Marriage: 25 Mar 1801
St. Bride's, Pembroke, Wales


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Submitter(s) Details

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 9 Sep 2009 23:20

Here's an interesting one.

1861:
Elizabeth Segery abt 1809 Egham, Surrey, England Head Clerkenwell, Middlesex - unmarried and a laundress

It looks as if it was commonly spelled this way.

Ozi.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Sep 2009 23:21

What was his occupation on the marriage cert?

Just wondering if pensioner on 1881 census refers to Army pensioner - really clutching at straws with that suggestion

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 9 Sep 2009 23:25

Ozi - looks like same Eliz in 1871:

Name: Eliz Segeny
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Egham, Surrey, England
Civil parish: St James Clerkenwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
County/Island: London

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 9 Sep 2009 23:28

I agree, but can't find her elsewhere at the moment.

It's interesting that Robert is the only Segery with the Bicketts in 1841. Is he illegitimate or just being minded?

Ozi.