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Dea

Dea Report 13 Sep 2009 08:54

Well, it is a mystery but the info on census is not always correct. - We will just have to keep looking for a birth.

She is consistent with Ireland as her birthplace on all but 1871. - 1881, 1891 and 1901 all show Ireland.

However, here she is on 1911 and is back to being born in Middlesex (Islington)

1911 Census Household Transcript

Search againName: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born: Report error View Original Page
PHELPS, CHARLES HEAD MARRIED M 52 FRUITERER ISLINGTON LONDON
PHELPS, MARGARET WIFE MARRIED 33 F 47 ISLINGTON LONDON
PHELPS, HARRY SON SINGLE M 23 MEAT PORTER ISLINGTON LONDON
PHELPS, WILLIAM SON M 13 SCHOOL ISLINGTON LONDON
PHELPS, HELEN DAUGHTER F 11 SCHOOL ISLINGTON LONDON
PHELPS, GEORGE SON SINGLE M 19 CARMAN ISLINGTON LONDON
PHELPS, WALTER THOMAS SON MARRIED M 6 CARMAN ISLINGTON LONDON
PHELPS, ROSE WIFE MARRIED 4 F 36 ISLINGTON LONDON
PHELPS, THOMAS SON M 11 MONTHS BLACKFRIARS S E
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PHELPS GEORGE (RG14PN816 RG78PN28 RD10 SD2 ED17 SN56)
Address 99 GROVE ROAD UPPER HOLLOWAY LONDON N County London
District Islington Subdistrict Upper Holloway
Enumeration District 17 Parish Islington


Dea x

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 13 Sep 2009 09:29

Morning Fledgling.....
You may have missed this from 1881 Census..but here is Charlie's family... All living together 58 Freeling St.


Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
James PHELPS Head M Male 60 Cheltenham, Gloucester, England Labourer
Sarah PHELPS Wife M Female 43 Chelsea, Middlesex, England
John PHELPS Son M Male 24 Islington, Middlesex, England Labourer
Thomas PHELPS Son Male 17 Islington, Middlesex, England Labourer
Mary Ann PHELPS Dau Female 15 Islington, Middlesex, England
William PHELPS Son Male 11 Islington, Middlesex, England
George PHELPS Son Male 9 Islington, Middlesex, England
Joseph PHELPS Son Male 1 Islington, Middlesex, England
George WILLIAMS Boarder U Male 46 Cheltenham, Gloucester, England Labourer
William WATSON Boarder U Male 28 Islington, Middlesex, England Labourer
William BONNER Boarder U Male 28 Islington, Middlesex, England Labourer


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Source Information:
Dwelling 58 Freeling St
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341051
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0234 / 107
Page Number 48

Dea

Dea Report 13 Sep 2009 09:39

In case you are 'struggling' to find them on 91 - they are mistranscribed:


Margaret Dowd (married to Charles PHELPS!!) at No 2, Highbury Mews.

1891 England Census
about Margaret Philips
Name: Margaret Philips
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles
Gender: Female
Where born: Kerry, Ireland

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England



Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Highbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Philips 32
Margaret Philips 29
Cathrine M Philips 10
James Philips 8
Walter Philips 5
Harry A Philips 5
Charles W Philips 11 months




Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 177; Folio 16; Page 25; GSU roll: 6095287.

Dea x

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 13 Sep 2009 09:39

Fledgling....Re; Freeling St. it is still there and up towards Hollaway/Camden area but not far from previous addressess of the O'Dowds...would love to see the house and find out how they managed with all those folk inside....!!

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 13 Sep 2009 09:47

Fledgling...Highbury Mews...Just up the Road from earlier addresses..off the Main Hollaway Road at the Intersection of Highbury and Islington.....

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 13 Sep 2009 09:59

Fledgling.....
From Free BDM....
Deaths....

Reg: March 1914...Henry Dowd aged 75 Islington.
Reg: June 1917....Catherine Dowd aged 73.Islington

fledgling

fledgling Report 13 Sep 2009 20:09

Thank you Dea and Erin for all this x I found Margaret and Charles in 1881 with just the two children Catherine (aged1 1880c) and Charles (aged 2 1879c) ( couldn't find in 1891 ... know i know why) .. wonder if charles died young then as not in the 1891 but another younger Charles has appeared .
Thanks for all the address info , I'll see i can get any pics
Best Wishes
x
Just printed off census for 1881thanks Erin seen that all the family lived at that address too ! I hadn't looked above - So there's Charles mum and Dad Thankyou ... what a full household I make it 12 family plus the three boarders . Thats got the son Charles who seems to have died before 1891 .. daughter Catherine , who becomes Kate in later census and then Katherine when married ( shes my nans mother) . I'm hoping her marriage certificate will arrive tomorrow

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 14 Sep 2009 09:36

Morning Fledgling....Good to hear some things are falling into place....You should be able to see the Streets on "Google Earth"...dont know how it works but I am sure someone can advise..!

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 14 Sep 2009 09:44

Fledgling....Only 2 recorded deaths islington for Charles Phelps...

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Dec 1881 (>99%)
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PHELPS Charles 2 Islington 1b 163

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Deaths Mar 1885 (>99%)
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Phelps Charles 1 Islington 1b 250