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Vicci

Vicci Report 9 Oct 2009 23:33

1901

Sarah with daughter Louise/Louisa

Sarah Ann Lane
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Twerton, Devon, England (TIVERTON)

Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 363
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Ann Lane 61
Louisa Lane 22

Vicci

Vicci Report 9 Oct 2009 23:50


Maybe
Births Sep 1879 (>99%)
Lane Louisa St. Giles 1b 643

Vicci

Vicci Report 9 Oct 2009 23:59

I wonder .....?

Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)
Galpin Sarah Ann Tiverton 5b 811
Lane William Tiverton 5b 811

Vicci

Vicci Report 10 Oct 2009 00:10

Marriages Mar 1862 (>99%)
Butt Giles Edward Westminster 1a 456
Gifford Sarah Westminster 1a 456
Parsons Sarah Ann Westminster 1a 456

one man's name missing


1861

Sarah Ann Parsons
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Gender: Female
Where born: Tiverton, Devon, England

Civil parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalen
County/Island: Surrey

Vicci

Vicci Report 12 Oct 2009 01:56

1881 (I know we've looked at this before - but just for ref)

Rose Lane
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 115 Whitfield St
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: 8b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Lane 40
Sarah Lane 35
Nobant Lane 17 Robert
Francis Lane 13 William Francis
Rose Lane 9
Louisa Lane 4

Vicci

Vicci Report 12 Oct 2009 02:21

Can you go back to the beginning and explain how it is you are looking for

Rose Lane with William and Sarah

have you Rose' marriage, if so when and who to
on the certificate what is her father's name and occupation

names of witnesses?

Vicci

Vicci Report 12 Oct 2009 02:56

OK found the marraige

Rosina Lane
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Spouse Name: Francis Lewis - plumber
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 15 Oct 1893
Parish: Holy Trinity, Marylebone Road
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: William Lane - gilder
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Lewis - undertaker

witnesses
Louisa lane
Joseph Williams

address 112 Gt Tichfield St ?

Vicci

Vicci Report 12 Oct 2009 03:08

so I think the family is

William b. 1842 Lambeth Surrey occupation Gilder
= Sarah Ann b. 1842 Tiverton Devon
(mnm possibly Galphin or Parsons)

ch.
Robert 1864 Marylebone
William FRANCIS 1868 Marylebone
Emma 1870 Marylebone (possibly died between 1871 and 1881)
Rose or Rosina 1872 Marylebone
Louisa or Louise 1877 Marylebone

Vicci

Vicci Report 12 Oct 2009 03:09

possible birth of Robert

Births Mar 1866 (>99%)
Lane Robert Westminster 1a 366
Births Dec 1866 (>99%)
Lane Robert Marylebone 1a 523

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 12 Oct 2009 07:11

I've been running a summary too Vicci. These are my findings:

Births Mar 1866 [I go for this one myself]
Lane Robert Westminster 1a 366
or
Births Dec 1866
Lane Robert Marylebone 1a 523

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: William Francis Lane
Record Type: Baptism Date: 7 Feb 1869
Father's Name: William Lane
Mother's Name: Sarah Lane
Parish: Holy Trinity, Marylebone Road
Borough: Westminster
County: Middlesex
which is probably
Births Mar 1869
LANE William Westminster, St. M. 1a 380

??
Births Jun 1869
LANE Emily Pancras 1b 183
or
Births Jun 1869
Lyon Emma Janett Westminster, St. M. 1a 364
or
Births Sep 1869
Lane Emma Sarah St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 332
or
Births Jun 1870
Lean Emma Elizabeth Pancras 1b 45



1871 England Census
Name: William Lane
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Stret Address: U Charlton St

Occupation: Gilder

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: All Souls
ED, institution, or vessel: 12a
Household schedule number: 489
Household Members: Name Age
William Lane 28
Sarah Lane 29 - Devonshire
Robert Lane 6 - Pancras
Francis Lane 2 - Marylebone
Emma Lane 1 - Marylebone

???
Deaths Dec 1871
Lane Emma Elizabeth 1 Marylebone 1a 363
Lane Emma Sarah 1 Poplar 1c 518

??
Births Dec 1876
Lane Louisa Mary St Giles 1b 620
or
Births Sep 1877
LEAN Louis[ae] Marylebone 1a 505
but probably not, because I think she's on 1881 census with parents
Births Mar 1878
LUNN Louisa Thomasina Marylebone 1a 529

1881 England Census
Name: William Lane
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 115 Whitfield St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Gilder
Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: 8b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Lane 40
Sarah Lane 35
Robert Lane 17 - French Polisher
Francis Lane 13 - scholar
Rose Lane 9 - scholar
Louisa Lane 4 - scholar
All born Marylebone



1891 England Census
Name: Sarah Lane
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Devon, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 20 Up Charlton St

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: All Souls
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Lane 50 - gilder; London
Sarah Lane 50
Frank Lane 23 - French Polisher; Marylebone
Louise Lane 13 - scholar; Marylebone
Dore Satz 27 - lodger


1901 England Census about Sarah Ann Lane
Name: Sarah Ann Lane
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Twerton, Devon, England
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 61 Whitfield St

Occupation: None [that's on image]

Condition as to marriage: widow

Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 363
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Ann Lane 61
Louisa Lane 22 - tailoress; Marylebone

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 12 Oct 2009 07:14

I'm pretty sure the Bethnal Green Rosina is not yours, because:

1881 England Census
Name: Rosina Lane
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Bethnal Green
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 5 Pleasant Place

Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Church
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Ann Lane 39
Joseph Lane 18
William Lane 11
Edward Lane 7
Sophia Lane 4
Rosina Lane 9
Caroline Lane

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 12 Oct 2009 07:38

Marriages Jun 1905
HOODLESS Robert George Pancras 1b 134
Lane Louisa Pancras 1b 134
Maddison Emma Pancras 1b 134
WITHERS Henry Pancras 1b 134


This one is born in Marylebone:
1911
HOODLESS ROBERT M 1875 36 Islington London
HOODLESS LOUISA F 1880 31 Islington London <<<<<<<<<
HOODLESS ROBERT M 1906 5 Islington London
HOODLESS LOUISA F 1908 3 Islington London
HOODLESS DOROTHY F 1909 2 Islington London

Also, this lady is with them.
LANE SARAH F 1843 68 Islington London


Births Mar 1914
HOODLESS Daisy L Lane Islington 1b 410

Deaths Dec 1916
Lane Sarah A 70 Islington 1b 359

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 12 Oct 2009 08:57

Although none of this is helping you find Rose/Rosina.

Robert - c1865 [Westminster]
William Francis - c1869 [Westminster] - Holy Trinity, Marylebone Rd m Matilda Riley in 1891
Emma - c1870 [Marylebone] - possibly dies in early 1870s
Rose - c1872 [Marylebone] - m Francis Lewis in 1893
Louisa - c1877 [Marylebone] - m Robert Hoodless in 1905

Shannon

Shannon Report 20 Oct 2009 20:37

Hello VICCIwasVictoria and Ozibird............I keep rereading your notes and information and I just don't know which certificate would be my very best one to order to find out what William Lane's (the gilder) wife's name was. OR which child's birth to find out the parents names?
Please can either of you tell me the one I should send for?

Thank you so much.

Shannon

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 20 Oct 2009 21:03

Shannon, I would get this one.

Births Mar 1869
LANE William Westminster, St. M. 1a 380

You know from the baptism found that the father was William, a gilder.

Ozi

P.S. I would also add that this is a fairly good probability this is your Sarah.

Marriages Dec 1868
Barnard Henry Westminster St M 1a 581
Bernard Henry Westminster St M 1a 581
Bond Sarah Westminster St.M 1a 581 <<<<<<
COOPER James Westminster, St. M. 1a 581
Lane William Westminster St.M 1a 581 <<<<<<<<
Weaver Lydia Ann Westminster 1a 581

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 20 Oct 2009 21:29

This is a complete long shot but I wonder if the middle initial R is for Rosina.

Births Dec 1872
LANE Adelaide Margaret R Marylebone 1a 487

I've had lots of rellies who go by their middle names.

Don't know how to prove or disprove this theory though? Can anyone help? Maybe a baptism etc.

Vicci

Vicci Report 20 Oct 2009 22:57

William Francis Lang 1868 dec qt Marylebone gro ref 1a 468.

this one was found on your other thread about this family

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 21 Oct 2009 22:16

Can anyone help find a death or marriage for Adeleide Margaret R Lane just to rule her in or out.

Thanks for any help

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 21 Oct 2009 22:18

could anyone find a baptism on the Ancestry LMA records which might help find Adeleide's parents?

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 21 Oct 2009 22:47

This wont help Im afraid.

1911 census
Adelaide Margaret Rose Lane single (patient) 1873 Marylebone occ private means

This is a nursing home
address 92 Radcliffe GDS S W Kensington