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I went to Free BMD and I found a Sarah Ann Smith married to a Alfred Jarvis, district Srand London. Sept. 1863 vol 1b page 768. Alfred died at age 28: Sep
1866 Pancras Vol 1b, Pafe 15?
I wonder if perhaps Sarah Jarvis was a widow when she married William Henderson Lane/Lang.

Onto Louisa, my Rosina's sister: She was born in 1880 in Islington London and married a Robert Hoodless born 1875 of the same place. Someone has kindly told me that in the 1911 census, Robert and Louisa are a family and a Sarah Lane, age 68 born 1843 in Islington London is living with them.
There is a Sarah A Lane who died in 1916 at age 70 1b page 359. I'm just adding as much as i can to try and find Rosina.
Thanks.

Hello all. Fresh updates from my aunt in England, but it may not amount to much. I still thank you all for the help that you give.
Shannon
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Rosina was born in Marylebone London and the place of marriage was Holy Trinity which I imagine was the Parish Church of St Marylebone. After Rosina married Francis Lewis and they had children they lived in
Marylebone Lane which was right behind Selfridges in Oxford Street. When Thomas Lewis, their son, joined the Army aged 18, his home address was 29 Augustus Street, Regents Park. You need to concentrate on North London, including Islington or Middlesex for answers. Districts include Marylebone, St Pancras or anywhere north of the City of London.
.Rosina died in 1930 and her death is registered in St. Pancras. Louisa Hoodless (nee Lane) also died in 1930 in St Pancras. Rosina was 58 when she died and Louisa 53. which ties up with their births in 1872 and 1877.(Estimated).
Still can't find any records for their births. Rosina's death is registered as vol.1b Page 87 and Louisa's Vol.1b Page 69. Hope this info. will help in your search.

Hello everyone:
I ordered the certificate for the birth of William Francis Lang below and it has to be him. Father-William Lane a gilder. Mother: Sarah JARVIS.
In census records it states that she was born in Devon.
Everyone has been so very helpful to me.

Thank you to all. Rosina will be found one day. I just know it.

Thanks again.
Shannon

Quinsgran, thanks very much. It does help as Vicc found a marriage for Rosina Lane in 1893 to Lewis, so your 1911 has confirmed that Adeleide is not Rosina.

thanks again

Selena

This wont help Im afraid.

1911 census
Adelaide Margaret Rose Lane single (patient) 1873 Marylebone occ private means

This is a nursing home
address 92 Radcliffe GDS S W Kensington

could anyone find a baptism on the Ancestry LMA records which might help find Adeleide's parents?

Can anyone help find a death or marriage for Adeleide Margaret R Lane just to rule her in or out.

Thanks for any help

William Francis Lang 1868 dec qt Marylebone gro ref 1a 468.

this one was found on your other thread about this family

This is a complete long shot but I wonder if the middle initial R is for Rosina.

Births Dec 1872
LANE Adelaide Margaret R Marylebone 1a 487

I've had lots of rellies who go by their middle names.

Don't know how to prove or disprove this theory though? Can anyone help? Maybe a baptism etc.

Shannon, I would get this one.

Births Mar 1869
LANE William Westminster, St. M. 1a 380

You know from the baptism found that the father was William, a gilder.

Ozi

P.S. I would also add that this is a fairly good probability this is your Sarah.

Marriages Dec 1868
Barnard Henry Westminster St M 1a 581
Bernard Henry Westminster St M 1a 581
Bond Sarah Westminster St.M 1a 581 <<<<<<
COOPER James Westminster, St. M. 1a 581
Lane William Westminster St.M 1a 581 <<<<<<<<
Weaver Lydia Ann Westminster 1a 581

Hello VICCIwasVictoria and Ozibird............I keep rereading your notes and information and I just don't know which certificate would be my very best one to order to find out what William Lane's (the gilder) wife's name was. OR which child's birth to find out the parents names?
Please can either of you tell me the one I should send for?

Thank you so much.

Shannon

Although none of this is helping you find Rose/Rosina.

Robert - c1865 [Westminster]
William Francis - c1869 [Westminster] - Holy Trinity, Marylebone Rd m Matilda Riley in 1891
Emma - c1870 [Marylebone] - possibly dies in early 1870s
Rose - c1872 [Marylebone] - m Francis Lewis in 1893
Louisa - c1877 [Marylebone] - m Robert Hoodless in 1905

Marriages Jun 1905
HOODLESS Robert George Pancras 1b 134
Lane Louisa Pancras 1b 134
Maddison Emma Pancras 1b 134
WITHERS Henry Pancras 1b 134


This one is born in Marylebone:
1911
HOODLESS ROBERT M 1875 36 Islington London
HOODLESS LOUISA F 1880 31 Islington London <<<<<<<<<
HOODLESS ROBERT M 1906 5 Islington London
HOODLESS LOUISA F 1908 3 Islington London
HOODLESS DOROTHY F 1909 2 Islington London

Also, this lady is with them.
LANE SARAH F 1843 68 Islington London


Births Mar 1914
HOODLESS Daisy L Lane Islington 1b 410

Deaths Dec 1916
Lane Sarah A 70 Islington 1b 359

I'm pretty sure the Bethnal Green Rosina is not yours, because:

1881 England Census
Name: Rosina Lane
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Bethnal Green
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 5 Pleasant Place

Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Church
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Ann Lane 39
Joseph Lane 18
William Lane 11
Edward Lane 7
Sophia Lane 4
Rosina Lane 9
Caroline Lane

I've been running a summary too Vicci. These are my findings:

Births Mar 1866 [I go for this one myself]
Lane Robert Westminster 1a 366
or
Births Dec 1866
Lane Robert Marylebone 1a 523

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: William Francis Lane
Record Type: Baptism Date: 7 Feb 1869
Father's Name: William Lane
Mother's Name: Sarah Lane
Parish: Holy Trinity, Marylebone Road
Borough: Westminster
County: Middlesex
which is probably
Births Mar 1869
LANE William Westminster, St. M. 1a 380

??
Births Jun 1869
LANE Emily Pancras 1b 183
or
Births Jun 1869
Lyon Emma Janett Westminster, St. M. 1a 364
or
Births Sep 1869
Lane Emma Sarah St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 332
or
Births Jun 1870
Lean Emma Elizabeth Pancras 1b 45



1871 England Census
Name: William Lane
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Stret Address: U Charlton St

Occupation: Gilder

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: All Souls
ED, institution, or vessel: 12a
Household schedule number: 489
Household Members: Name Age
William Lane 28
Sarah Lane 29 - Devonshire
Robert Lane 6 - Pancras
Francis Lane 2 - Marylebone
Emma Lane 1 - Marylebone

???
Deaths Dec 1871
Lane Emma Elizabeth 1 Marylebone 1a 363
Lane Emma Sarah 1 Poplar 1c 518

??
Births Dec 1876
Lane Louisa Mary St Giles 1b 620
or
Births Sep 1877
LEAN Louis[ae] Marylebone 1a 505
but probably not, because I think she's on 1881 census with parents
Births Mar 1878
LUNN Louisa Thomasina Marylebone 1a 529

1881 England Census
Name: William Lane
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 115 Whitfield St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Gilder
Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: 8b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Lane 40
Sarah Lane 35
Robert Lane 17 - French Polisher
Francis Lane 13 - scholar
Rose Lane 9 - scholar
Louisa Lane 4 - scholar
All born Marylebone



1891 England Census
Name: Sarah Lane
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Devon, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 20 Up Charlton St

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: All Souls
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Lane 50 - gilder; London
Sarah Lane 50
Frank Lane 23 - French Polisher; Marylebone
Louise Lane 13 - scholar; Marylebone
Dore Satz 27 - lodger


1901 England Census about Sarah Ann Lane
Name: Sarah Ann Lane
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Twerton, Devon, England
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 61 Whitfield St

Occupation: None [that's on image]

Condition as to marriage: widow

Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 363
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Ann Lane 61
Louisa Lane 22 - tailoress; Marylebone

possible birth of Robert

Births Mar 1866 (>99%)
Lane Robert Westminster 1a 366
Births Dec 1866 (>99%)
Lane Robert Marylebone 1a 523

so I think the family is

William b. 1842 Lambeth Surrey occupation Gilder
= Sarah Ann b. 1842 Tiverton Devon
(mnm possibly Galphin or Parsons)

ch.
Robert 1864 Marylebone
William FRANCIS 1868 Marylebone
Emma 1870 Marylebone (possibly died between 1871 and 1881)
Rose or Rosina 1872 Marylebone
Louisa or Louise 1877 Marylebone

OK found the marraige

Rosina Lane
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Spouse Name: Francis Lewis - plumber
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 15 Oct 1893
Parish: Holy Trinity, Marylebone Road
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: William Lane - gilder
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Lewis - undertaker

witnesses
Louisa lane
Joseph Williams

address 112 Gt Tichfield St ?

Can you go back to the beginning and explain how it is you are looking for

Rose Lane with William and Sarah

have you Rose' marriage, if so when and who to
on the certificate what is her father's name and occupation

names of witnesses?

1881 (I know we've looked at this before - but just for ref)

Rose Lane
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 115 Whitfield St
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: 8b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Lane 40
Sarah Lane 35
Nobant Lane 17 Robert
Francis Lane 13 William Francis
Rose Lane 9
Louisa Lane 4