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Just in case-the 1901:
Name: Cattarozzi Eugene
Age: 76
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 138; Folio: 52; Page: 8.

Maureen

you can also do other fruits. i like raspberry gin best and it makes loads because you add some water. Sloe gin is best kept for a year before drinking.

we have seen that Maureen. We can't find him on the 1881 and 91 I think.

Thank you Soooo much MaureenNY,I KNEW I had seen him somewhere on 1901,I am printing that off right now.

I have even tried on igi for the 1881 with no luck.

No we havent seen 1901 on here Mel...your getting fuddled now.

Stay off that juice I would!!!

The 1901 details so we can all see them all:

Name: Cattarozzi Eugene
Age: 76
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Servant
>> Where born: Italy

Civil parish: St Pancras


Italy, an assumption by the employer?

Odd -- the Cook above him is born in Austria.

He's widower, occupation Secretary, with annotation "CC" in front of it. Working for Foreign Agent for Servants. Ah, and early foreign domestic worker agency.

on that census that you could'nt read thst also had C C written on it.

Sorry about the hickup. I had to feed mum! Still cooking with one arm and now my hand is a bit swollen. We had jacket pots

Thank you all for your help,
I give up,
he can stay lost,
along with the reason why his wife says she is a widow and changes her first name on 1881.
And yet her death in 1881 is reg as Letitia.

The Perkins/Wtakins side of this family were easier by comparison.
I shall just take what I have with all your helps?with me to Ireland when I go to stay with my friend and tell her if she wants more than what I have she can take a hike elsewhere!

Just in case you are still looking for where you got Rugen from, here it is:

Marriages Dec 1865 (>99%)
Aldous William St. Giles 1b 857
>>>>>>>>Cattarozzi Rugen St Giles 1b 857
>>>>>>>>Clark Letitia St Giles 1b 857
May Annie Sophia St Giles 1b 857

Ancestry gives his father:

Name: Eugen Cattarozzi
Spouse: Letitia Clark
Father: Joseph Cattarozzi
Birth: year
Marriage: date - city, Middlesex

Thank you Potty,of course it was, I def need to go on a memory course!

I have a copy of the cert for my friend from GRO as well,before they came online,could have saved a few quid if I had waited,but then we didnt know did we.

I more request on this darn family please..:)

Cant find this one on 1901,got all else on him.
He married Florence Catarrozzi in 1903.
He SHOULD be a Gardener by trade,going on the 1911.
And to make even more work the ruddy kids arent with them in 1911.

1891 England Census
about Leonard Elderfield
Name: Leonard Elderfield
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Mettingham, Kent, England

Civil parish: Mottingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Mettingham<<<<<<< {MOttingham)
County/Island: Kent
Country: England


Only 10 days left to go before you hear no more on ANY of this lot.

We will start on her hubby side next...
Joke,
I have got that lot sorted back to parish records,,,just about
A real shame he died last year and wont see all our hard work,I,ll bill him when I see him next,hopefully not toooo soon.
x x x

The rest of the 1891 household for info:

George Elderfield 43 - born Reading, Berkshire (c1848)
Eliza Elderfield 39 - born Mottingham, Kent (c1852)
Leonard Elderfield 13
Harry Elderfield 9 - born Mottingham, Kent (c1882)


I believe they were in suspended animation in 1901.


Harry neither married nor died in England. Might they actually have pulled an Ernest Monck, and emigrated for the 1901 census, and Leonard returned on his own?

Arrrggghhhhh.
I am begining to HATE this family.

Because I also cant find Daughter Florence Elderfield born 1904 in 1911.

And on the 1911 paternal side in 1911 for some reason one of the children(who I KNOW didnt die,but grew up and had children,my friends aunt)has been scratched out and I cant find her either

I now go to cry into my tea.

Harry??

Harry S ELDERFIELD
Date of departure: 22 December 1911
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Sydney, Australia
Passenger destination: Sydney, Australia

Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Engineer


Leonard is friends grandad .

Eliza's on her own in 1901.

Oh no she isn't. Only according to ancestry's stupid system. She has a daughter Daisy, aged 15, with her, on the image. She shows as widowed, laundress. Hm.

Name: Eliza Elderfield
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Mottingham, Kent, England

Name: Daisy Elderfield
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Female
Where born: Mottingham, Kent, England

Civil parish: Chiselhurst


They're both recorded twice by Ancestry; in one household there is only Eliza; in the other there is one Eliza and two Daisys. eeeeeeeeee.


I thought this fellow rather interesting in 1901.

Name: George Broctheran (I'll let you read it - it isn't Elderfield)
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet E
Gender: Male
> Where born: Reading, Berkshire, England
> occupation: jobbing gardener

Name: Harriet E Broctheran
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Jonian Islands Irland of Corfre
- yeah ... Island of Corfe -- Turkey (B.S.)

Civil parish: Dover

1911

ELDERFIELD, Eliza Head Married
42 years F 67 1844 Laundress Laundress Mottingham Kent VIEW
ELDERFIELD, Daisy Daughter Single F 22 1889 Charwoman Mottingham Kent VIEW
ELDERFIELD, Ivy Granddaughter Single F 8 1903 School Chislehurst Kent VIEW
ELDERFIELD, Lilani Daughter Single F 4 1907 Chislehurst Kent

Address:
Webbs Cottage West Chislehurst Kent

Whatever that1901 census says I dont think its Broctheran.
But could well be George Elderfield masquerading,so I printed it off,just in case.

Leonard Elderfield in 1901 can go to the same place as Eugen Catarrozzi on the missing 1881.

Florence Maud Elderfield born 1904 kent I would REALLY like to find on 1911 as she is/was Mother to my friend.



NOT with her parents...

ELDERFIELD, Leonard Head Married M 33 1878 Gardener Domestic Mottingham Kent VIEW
ELDERFIELD, Florence Wife Married
8 years F 31 1880 Kensington London VIEW
DONOVAN, Mary Single F 50 1861 Laundress Foots Croy


Address:
3 Slades Cotts Chislehurst

There's no birth of an Ivy Elderfield c1903.

?

Lilian, yes:

Births Mar 1907
ELDERFIELD Lilian Freda Bromley 2a 575

Florence for ref:

Births Sep 1904
ELDERFIELD Florence Maud Bromley 2a 566