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I have a suspicion you may find that this is your John's birth:

Births Dec 1873
Penn John Hare D Kingston 2a 283

>>> the 1901 census record posted above doesn't say Kensington on the image, it says Surrey, Kingston, for place of birth.


Now as to why the change of surname, if that's the case ... our work is cut out for us. ;)


As for Mary Ellen in 1911, if that is her -- it would be very common for a stepchild of the head of household to be going by his name in the community and thus recorded under that name in the census.

It was also very common for people to say they were married when they weren't. ;)

I managed to obtain Mary Ellen and John Stephens marriage cert. It gives John's full name of John Hare Depicke Stephens which sounds very posh to me!!! and his father was called Charles Augustus Stephens and he was a Bank Clerk which I guess must of been a pretty good job in 1899.

It is most definately who I was looking for as Mary Ellen's Address on her marriage cert is the same as on Charles Birth cert.

Now I have another couple of favours to ask:

I can't find John Stephens or Charles Augustus Stephens on the 1911 Census at all.

And I believe that Mary Ellen Clark re married to someone called Arthur Green as I have found her on the 1911 Census showing as being married to this man, but she seems to have given my grandfather charles samuel stephens the surname of green!!!! I am almost 100 percent that this is them on the census as my aunt has confirmed some of the other names shown on the census.

Any help will be much appreciated.

Jackie

oh dear I feel this may be him >???

1881 England Census about John Stevens
Name: John Stevens
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Patient
Gender: Male
Where born: Kensington, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Paddington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: "St Mary Hospital" Cambridge Place
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St John Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: St Marys Hospital

Yes it says he was partly blind from birth ?
Only way is to buy that marriage cert, sorry.

Thats a good find for 1901 as he is listed as married



Jackie,
Looks like you are going to have to get the marriage cert for some idea of how old Mary was when she married.

guessin

1901 England Census about John H D Stephens
Name: John H D Stephens
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Kensington, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriels Chapelry and St James Norlands
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Annie Freeman 47
John H D Stephens 26 son
Eliza M Peterson 61
John Price 38
Mary A Price 35
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Possible marriage

Marriages Sep 1899 (>99%)
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Clark Mary Ellen Brentford 3a 320
Hudson George Thomas Brentford 3a 320
Shailer Florence Brentford 3a 320
Stephens John Hare D Brentford 3a 320

My grandfather was called Charles Samuel Stephens and he was born in Lambeth in 1899 I have a copy of his birth certificate which shows his parents as being John Stephens and Mary Ellen Stephens (formally Clark) and they lived in Chiswick. I can't trace any of them on any of the census and have now come to a brick wall. If there is anyone out there that could help I would really appreciate it as my father died back in Feb and I have no one else to ask.

Thanks
Jackie