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Martyn

Martyn Report 23 Oct 2009 14:47

sorry for the confusion:

George McMillan b circa 1856 no record of death
Elizabeth Algie b circa 1852 no record of death
George married Elizabeth 22/04/1881

Georgina McMillan b 07/08/1886 d 21/08/1951

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Oct 2009 15:03

Martyn

Have you bought a copy of Georgina's birth certificate or did you get her date of birth from her death certificate?

Have you bought her parents marriage certificate?

Where are you getting her parents approximate year of birth from if she hasn't been found with them on a census record?

Martyn

Martyn Report 23 Oct 2009 15:18

I got the info from Scotland's people, copy of Geogina's birth Page 386 1158. Says she was living at 44 Greendale? street & her parents george was a carpet weaver & mother Elizabeth previously Parkinson? nee Algie who were married 22/04/1881.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Oct 2009 15:45

Ahh! That's better Martyn.

So it looks like Freewheel has found the right Georgina as that George is indeed a Carpet Weaver. (Just for interest - Greendale Street is near the famous Templeton's Carpet Factory).

Now if you got the parent's marriage from Georgina's birth certificate, if you look up their marriage it will give your their ages and also tell you if they were single or widowed (which it looks like Elizabeth was).

From the census that Freewheel has posted, it looks like Elizabeth died between Georgina's birth and 1891 - so that should make her death easy to find on Scotlandspeople.

It looks like George died between 1891 and 1901 - so again it shouldn't be too difficult to find his death.

The Mary McMillan who is listed as Georgina's mother is almost certainly her Aunt - either George's sister or widowed sister-in-law.

You caoul also look on Scotlandspeople for Elizabeth's first marriage and then it may be possible to find half sisters or brothers for her as it looks like she was the only living child of George and Elizabeth.


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Oct 2009 15:51

Here you are - Elizabeth's first marriage was in Glasgow but alas in 1874 so she won't appear with Joseph on any census as she married George in 1881.

I have use my last credit - so can't view the record.

1874 PARKINSON JOSEPH ALGIE ELIZABETH HIGH CHURCH GLASGOW/LANARK 644/02 0137 VIEW

and her marriage in Dennistoun to George

1881 MCMILLAN GEORGE ALGIE ELIZABETH DENNISTOUN GLASGOW/LANARK 644/03 0192

Martyn

Martyn Report 23 Oct 2009 16:31

very many thanks to all who have helped me in partticular Rootgatherer & Freewheel. It is very much appreciated
regards
Martyn

Kath

Kath Report 23 Oct 2009 16:58

I found that Georgina's mother, Elizabeth died in 1888 - Camlachie and her father George re-married to Mary McChesney - Camlachie
The family were living in Camlachie in 1891.

Kath

Kath

Kath Report 23 Oct 2009 20:10

NUDGE FOR MARTYN

Kath

Kath Report 23 Oct 2009 20:25

Hi Martyn,
From Ancestry, Georgina's father, George McMillan was born in 1826 in Glasgow as he was 65 years old on 1891 Census. He was probably married even before he got married to Elizabeth Algie in 1881.

Regards
Kath

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2009 09:22

Well done Kath! So Mary wasn't her Aunt but her stepmother. I suppose it makes sense that George remarried quickly after Elizabeth's death. It would be difficult for a man in his 60s with a young child to bring up.

I think you are correct that George would have been married before he married Elizabeth and with a bit of luck Martyn will find the names of all his wives on his death certificate (if the informant knew them). So although it looks as though Georgina had no half siblings on her mother's side she may well have had on her father's side. They would probably have been grown up and married with children of their own before she was born.

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 24 Oct 2009 09:45

Hi Georgina born 1876,father born c1866 ? he'd be 10 when Georgina was born.if he died in 1881 there are likely to be only Georgina ,and it would be Step siblings.Does it give the parents marriage details on the birth certificate?If not it will do if you go through "Scotlandspeople"

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Oct 2009 09:50

Ellen

It has been established on the thread that George was born in 1826 and died after 1891. He married Georgina's mother Elizabeth in 1881 and she was born in 1886.

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 24 Oct 2009 10:38

I suggest looking at Scotlandspeople for births between marriage to Elizabeth and Georges death in Glasgow.As it is the main line.His death on Scotlandspeople should have details of his marriages.The only George McMillan c1826 ,carpet weaver,i am finding in the 1891 census is married to a Mary ,with a Georgina bc1887.1901 Census Georgina is a muslin weaver.Is that her occupation on the marriage certificate? Mother Mary ?No more issue .108 Reid St.Bridgeton.Need the death Certificate of George McMillan to see how many times he was married.

Kath

Kath Report 24 Oct 2009 11:17

Hi Ellen,
Georgina's mother, Elizabeth Algie died in 1888 Glasgow.
Georgina's father, George then remarried to a Mary McChesney in 1889 Glasgow.
Georgina was born in 1886, not 1866

Kath

Kath

Kath Report 25 Oct 2009 08:43

Hi Martyn,
Quoting your post of 23rd October 13.39

Freewheel, thanks for the info on the Cameron's, didn't realise there were so many. I notice jane's middle name is McL, should i assume this ia an abbreviation of something else?
I also noticed that some of the childrens middle names begin with B or Y, I know David's middle name is Blair (mother's maiden name) & her mother was Young. Would this be a possibility?

This is the information I have found regarding Jane's middle name.

Jane McL Cameron born 1879c, daughter of William Cameron & Isabella Blair.

William Cameron b. 1852 St. Cuthberts Edinburgh, his father was John Cameron b. 1824 Midlothian. John 1st married Margaret McDonald in 1849 Logierait. Then married Rachel Campbell in 1851 Perth.
Then married Jane McLay (BUT NOT UNTIL 1902).
Rachel Campbell died in 1890, her last child was born in 1870 so it's my guess that Jane McLay was on the scene between 1870 & 1902.
So, perhaps Jane McL Cameron b. 1879 was Jane McLay Cameron.

Just a thought anyway.

I agree that the B in the other childrens names are most likely Blair but you really need to buy the birth certs to be sure..


Regards
Kath

Martyn

Martyn Report 26 Oct 2009 09:23

wow, what a fantastic forum this is, I can't thank you all enough for all your help. Thanks once again
Martyn