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Flamin woman took me away from a lovely thread ...
Hits the jackpot me thinks?
But I will leave that to her Ladyship to decide.

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BARTON, William Henry Head Married M 59 1852 Cellarman Honiton Devon VIEW
BARTON, Mary Ann Wife Married
33 years F 56 1855 Chard Somerset VIEW
MCCARTHY, Winnifred Mary Grand D F 4 1907 Barry Docks Glam VIEW
BRIAN, Arthur F H O Grand S M 4 1907 Honiton Devon VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
12536 Reference:
RG14PN12536 RG78PN720 RD269 SD1 ED12 SN62

Registration District:
Honiton Sub District:
Honiton EnumerationDistrict:
12 Parish:
Honiton

Address:
High Street Honiton County:
Devonshire

This somehow got switched to PMing, and I ain't gonna do that!


You haven't had luck with the 1911 for some reason I don't understand.

But I'll give you the search results.


1911, living with Elizabeth Maria McCarthy:

MCCARTHY DAVID WILLIAM 1910 11 MONTHS Cardiff Glamorganshire
MCCARTHY ELLEN JANE 1909 2
MCCARTHY CATHERINE AMELIA 1908 3
> MCCARTHY DAVID JOSEPH 1880 31
MCCARTHY BRIDGET JANE 1845 66
MCCARTHY DENNIS 1843 68


Now, the marriage record doesn't say David *Joseph* McCarthy, but it does say Elizabeth Maria, and they are the only ones in Barry, so I figured that was them.

The dates of birth are approx and may be a year late, of course, e.g. 1908 could be 1907.


This is your Mary Winifred?

Births Dec 1906
McCarthy Mary Winifred Cardiff 11a 458

Do you have the birth certificate and is that where the names David McCarthy and Elizabeth Barton come from?

So here's what you do, and please try it!

Go to the 1911 census link above, and search for

MARY
MCCARTHY
living in BARRY

MCCARTHY MARY WINFRED 1909 2 Cardiff Glamorganshire

-- note the spelling.

So search for all McCarthys in Barry living with MARY WINFRED MCCARTHY.

MCCARTHY JEREMIAH DANIEL 1881 30 Cardiff Glamorganshire
MCCARTHY JANE 1883 28
MCCARTHY AGNES MARGARET 1905 6
MCCARTHY DANIEL 1907 4
MCCARTHY ALAM 1910 1


So either she's not your Mary, or your Mary's parents weren't David and Elizabeth. Or - she is your Mary and she's visiting an aunt and uncle?

There is another possibility:

doing the search for Mary McCarthy *born in* Barry:

MCCARTHY WINNIFRED MARY 1907 4 Honiton Devonshire

and that's consistent with a 1906 birthdate.


So I shall go round up Viv to use her 1911 subscription and see who is in that Honiton household.

My new board name sandiwes

Thanks Janey

You're welcome! (and I shall send that message to the right Sandra.)

I dont like to do people's searching for them because it spoils their fun, but if you need a hand with the 1911 or FreeBMD, there's always someone around to help.


(Yikes, you are right - the two Sandra posts appeared simultaneously just now, and the other one is the Tolfree Sandra who was posting willy-nilly and not replying. Tip - get yourself a board name so you can be distinguished! Go to your account details and make the changes there. I strongly recommend deleting your real name altogether, for privacy, and having a single name as board name and "real" name, as I do - anyone who clicks on your board name now can see your real identity, and that isn't wise on the internet.)

I don't know what to say Janey thats brilliant.

Also i think you may have got me mixed up with another Sandra, i found her on the tolfree with lots of messages

Thanks again Janey you have relly helped

Their marriage from FreeBMD:

Marriages Jun 1906
Barton Elizabeth Maria Cardiff 11a 782
HILL Louisa Cardiff 11a 782
McCARTHY David Cardiff 11a 782


If you search the 1911 census for Elizabeth Maria Barton living in Barry, you will find her:

MCCARTHY ELIZABETH MARIA 1880 31 Cardiff Glamorganshire

Then, search for anyone with surname McCarthy living in Barry with Elizabeth Maria McCarthy, and you will see David and their children, and apparently also David's parents.

You can search for births after 1911 at FreeBMD

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

surname: MCCARTHY
mother's surname: BARTON

There are numerous births with those surnames registered in Cardiff 1911-1922. You may be able to tell whether they are your family.

Hi Stephen

I want to know how many children were born to them and if they ever came to London between 1907 and 1929. I know there was a Mary Winifred but were there any more children.

Thanks Stephen
Sandra

Edited because I mixed up two Sandras posting simultaneously! Sorry, good Sandra. ;)

Has anyone any information in their tree as regards to a David Mccarthy who married Elizabeth Barton, they lived on Pike Street in Barry Wales around 1906.