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Elsie on 1911??

Name: Ethel Rose Griffin
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 4 Feb 1903
Father's Name: Charles Edward Griffin <<decorator
Mother's Name: Ethel Mary Griffin
Parish: Saint Peter, Lower Edmonton
Borough: Enfield
County: Middlesex

27 st marys gardens.

To track Ethel Mary Haysman back I think it would be best to get the marriage cert to Alfred Smith in 1895?
With the exact spellings as given on the refs.

No marriage showing to go with the banns and also no birth of a william Griffin in 1900/01/02 in Edmonton,no William Haysmans reged there either,but lots of little William Smiths of course.

sorry on the side of the page it says married Aug 19th 1895 No 233; also just found this which may help track them down:

Name: Ellen Maria Haysman
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Spouse Name: Henry John Bowning
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 5 Dec 1886
Parish: Saint Anne, South Lambeth
County: Middlesex
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: William Haysman
Spouse Father Name: Thomas G??Ppy Bowning

and a witness thomas alfred haysman.
Possibly a sibling for ethel?

Regards Linda :)

Good hunting there Linda;)

maybe not, there's two of them???!!!

Name: Ellen Maria Haysman
Year of Registration: 1887
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Hackney
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 510 (click to see others on page)

This one married either an alfred cockram or richard bremner!!

a quick look at the original scan on freebmd gives ethels name as heaysman??

Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%)
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Collyer Alfred Edward Edmonton 3a 448
Heaysman Ethel Mary Edmonton 3a 448
Hills Sarah Edmonton 3a 448
Smith Alfred Edmonton 3a 448

So that is what you'd need to send for. I'd give the childrens birth certs a go first!!

The childrens birth certs wont give Ethel Mary,s fathers name and occupation though Linda;)

very good point mackeckie!! Hope that name is funny in the uk?

Nope..
Kecks are lower underwear slang though and people do say they p... them with laughter!
Macs are raincoats;)

Ha Ha,,,Groan

for your eyes only hence the delete!!

Wow! amazing reply!! it is very confusing though... To make it clearer:
My nan told me her granma (my great great nan) name was Ethel Mary Haysman and that she cam from Sussex. My nans mums name(ethels daughter) is Edith Griffin born in 1906 in Edmonton. she doesnt know her grandas name though...never met him. so yea sum kind of affair is possibly correct! but any more help would be amazing :D

It's a shame you couldn't have hung about a bit to answer some of the qusetion