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Oh yes, you mentioned that earlier didn't you?

Maybe he was known as Alf the Boss then!

I wonder if they intended to name the next one Beta and so on? Guess we will never know.

Mind you, as an only child, he really was the beginning and the end wasn't he?

well, the alpha male in wolves is the leader, the "head of the clan"

There is the alpha male and alpha female, who are in fact the breeding pair, then there might be 1 to 3 or 4 younger wolves who support the alpha couple, and help raise the young.



so maybe his parents expected him to be the leader. :))))





sylvia

Thanks Ozi. Alpha was living next door to his parents it seems. Why would they call him Alpha for heaven's sake? I know about Alpha and Omega the beginning and the end.......but??? Maybe they were hoping for more children !!

Actually went away and did a bit of googling. It's Greek for ox!

Wonder if he was known as Alf the Ox??? lol

Poor chap.

1901: next door to Alphar & Ellen at No. 1 Adelaide St

2 Adelaide St
Thomas Goodwin Charlotte abt 1829 Meopham, Kent, England Head Gravesend, Kent - retired gardener
Charlotte Goodwin Thomas abt 1830 Ash, Kent, England Wife Gravesend, Kent

Good morning Nicola. Thank you for that - unfortunately I don't have access to the 1901 so haven't a clue who is next door.

Mind you, there were so many of them that it really doesn't surprise me but would you be able to tell me who they were?

I have quite a lot of info on many of the Goodwins so I don't want to waste anyone's time, but it may be helpful in putting a few things into context.

Won't be back until this afternoon as I do a voluntary job on Tuesday mornings! Thanks again.

Well, I can see that if I am going to get Ancestry, I'm going to have to get used to some peculiar translations.


I think Lewis is being a complete pain!!!


Many thanks.

1911
GOODWIN CAROLINE F 1862 49 Gravesend Kent
GOODWIN ALBERT CROYLES M 1892 19 Gravesend Kent
GOODWIN ROSIE MARY F 1905 6 Gravesend Kent


I wonder if this is Rosie
Births Sep 1904
GOODWIN Lottie Mary R Gravesend 2a 656

I can't find a Lottie in 1911.

Lewis is hiding. I just can't find him under any conditions.

Thanks Ozi.

Deaths Mar 1928
Goodwin Lewis R 63 Gravesend 2a 983 (born c1865)

Probably a son:
Births Sep 1902
Goodwin Lewis Robert Gravesend 2a 630
Deaths Sep 1902
Goodwin Lewis Robert 0 Gravesend 2a 313

Whew! Thanks for all that, especially the summary Ozi - that helped my spinning grey cells.

Sylvia - several of the next generation emigrated to Canada but I hadn't thought of that with this line I must admit.

Glitter, thank you, I think you're right about the name.

Am now going to try and piece this together.


No wonder no one is following them up on Ancestry - too flippin' complicated!

Thank you friends. (ps. may be getting Ancestry as my Christmas pressie from OH - will I ever cope?)

6 Pub;lic Family Trees on ancestry have Charles


no indication of marriage

two say Death:- England (no date)


guess none of them are following him!!



sylvia

1901 but again need to check the image

Name: Priscilla Jessmer
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles
Gender: Female
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England

Civil parish: Milton
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address: Vine Cottages

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Gravesend
Sub-registration district: Gravesend
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 186
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Jessmer 35 - gen lab - Gravesend
Priscilla Jessmer 35
Martha Jessmer 9
Charles Jessmer 8
James Jessmer 3
Walter Jessmer 1
Abraham Jessmer 2 8 months


Class: RG13; Piece: 711; Folio: 75; Page: 34



Think it might be Jessup on image

Hi again.

Alpha is another branch too! At least he was fairly easy to trace!


Yes, Sylvia that's them in 1871 - I know about Rosina and Philish will be Priscilla.


Thanks again.

Here's the one that Glitter found on the 1901 ...... wonder if they also planned a big family


or is he intended to eb the Alpha Male (as in wolf pack)???



1861 Census

Name: Alpha Thos Goodwin
Age: 9 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thos
Mother's Name: Char
Gender: Male
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England

Civil parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet

Thos Goodwin 32
Char Goodwin 31
Alpha Thos Goodwin 9 Mo




sylvia

Summary:

Charles Goodwin - found in 1891
Lewis Robert Goodwin - found in 1901
Priscilla Goodwin - found in 1891, 1901 & 1911 - done
James Goodwin - found in 1891 & 1911

Cynthia


two possibilties

a) emigrated

b) ancestyr strikes agian with weird ranscription


but I can't find Thomas, Martha, Charles, James or Richard


and I have looked for no name, birth year +/5 years, born Meopham, Kent



sylvia

Cynthia

I take it this is the family on the 1871 Census?


Name Age
Thomas Goodwin 48 Wheelwright and Thatcher
Martha Goodwin 44
Rozina Vaughan 24 Daughter-in-law, Unmarried (??? meaning stepdaughter)
Thomas Goodwin 19
Frederick Goodwin 18
Edgara Goodwin 16
Mitilda Goodwin 12
Charles Goodwin 10
William Goodwin 6
Lewis Goodwin 18
Philish Goodwin 15
Walter Goodwin 3
Richard Goodwin 1


All born in Meopham, Kent



sylvia

Heavens.....can't keep up but doing my best!

Glitter, Sims is a relation from another branch of the family - said they were prolific...and how!


Sylvia - I wonder where they went???


Ozi - thanks!


Choccy - thank you too.

Would you believe, that one of this line married my grandmother's sister??? Hard work this lot!



Very grateful for all efforts.

Cx.

1901 but again need to check the image as a strange christian name


Name: Alphar Goodwin
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England

Civil parish: Gravesend
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Gravesend
Sub-registration district: Gravesend
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 210
Household Members: Name Age
Alphar Goodwin 40
Ellen Goodwin 43
Gertrude Goodwin 5
Lois M Goodwin 3



Class: RG13; Piece: 713; Folio: 111; Page: 31



Will probably have to ignore this one as does look like Alpha or Alphar on image


There is a birth for Alpha Thomas Goodwin - so yes ruled out

There is a Sims Goodwin on the 1871 Census


Sims Goodwin John, Sarah abt 1861 Meopham, Kent, England Son Meopham, Kent



sylvia