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re Katherine Annie Watkins:-

Marriages Sep 1925
Kidley Thornton Watkins Monmouth 11a 69
Watkins Katherine A Kidley Monmouth 11a 69


and this birth:-

Births Jun 1926
Kidley John W T mmn Watkins Westbury S. 6a 462

and this death ( although the first names are in a different order)

William J T Kidley age 14
Gloucester C
4th qtr 1940
vol 6a page 912


and the marriage for Horsfield and Kidley!

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Katherine A Kidley
Name: Katherine A Kidley
Spouse Surname: Horsfield
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1954
Registration district: Nottingham
Registration county (inferred): Nottinghamshire
Volume Number: 3c
Page Number: 732
Find Spouse: Herbert A Horsfield


Seems that "Kitty " was married twice!


Brenda

Im not sure, will have to ask my Grandad because all i know was that she came from Monmouth to Chelmsford, she lived round the corner from Harry and i think the son died when they were in chelmsford.

I will check though, thank you.

My Grandad said Lillie was an only child but it seems she had an older sister and brother. How can i confirm that i am looking at the right family?
Im so useless at this. :)

Wheres Cheltenham? Sorry i do not understand

Sorry, I got a little muddled and looked at Cheltenham instead of Chelmsford!

Is this the Lillie that you have found? She was born in the correct year and place so is more than likely your Lillie!


1901 Wales Census
about Lillie Phillips
Name: Lillie Phillips
Age in 1901: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Nehemiah
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Female
Where born: Llandogo, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil parish: Llandogo
Ecclesiastical parish: St Dochoe
Town: Llandogo
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: Riverside
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Monmouth
Sub-registration district: Trelleck
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
Nehemiah Phillips 41 Auxillary Postman and Coal Seller
Annie Phillips 37wife
Annie Phillips 17 daughter, Dressmaker
>>>>>>>>>Lillie Phillips 16
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4925; Folio: 54; Page: 5.



1891 Wales Census
about Lillie I Phillips
Name: Lillie I Phillips
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Nehemiah
Mother's Name: Annie F
Gender: Female
Where born: Llandogo, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil parish: Llandogo
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandogo
Town: Llandogo
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: Riverside Cottages
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Monmouth
Sub-registration district: Trelleck
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Nehemiah Phillips 31 Wood Turner & Letter Carrier
Annie F Phillips 27
Annie F Phillips 7
Lillie I Phillips 6
Willie S Phillips 4
George Paynes 60
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4344; Folio 55; Page 3; GSU roll: 6099454.

This family lived next door to the Ship Inn, Riverside

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Lily Jane Phillips
Name: Lily Jane Phillips
Year of Registration: 1885
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 43

Perhaps if you were to buy Lillies birth certificate it would confirm just who her parents were.

Also the marriage certificate of Katherine Annie to Thornton Kidley would be a good purchase.This would clear up a lot of doubt.

Brenda

Very likely to be another of Harry;s siblings with the name Lillie?

Births Sep 1917
Watkins Lillie M mmnPhillips Monmouth 11a 47

her death ( unmarried?)

WATKINS Lillie May born 4-NOV-1917
BIRMINGHAM
district code 0611B
register no B16B
entry no136
Nov 1999


Births Sep 1914
Watkins Arthur H Phillips Monmouth 11a 67

possible marriage for Arthur:-

Marriages Jun 1933
Stone Edna M Watkins Monmouth 11a 67
Watkins Arthur H Stone Monmouth 11a 67

Arthur's death?

WATKINS Arthur Herbert 13-SEP-1914
SWINDON
vol 23 page 1941
JUL 1989
7 89

Llandogo, Monmouth to
Trellech, Monmouth
Distance: 1.6 miles

this is taken from an advetisment for The Lion Inn, Trellech.......do you think that this may be the one that your family had ties with?


Lion Inn
Trellech, Monmouth, Monmouthshire, NP25 4PA
Telephone 01600 860322

http://www.lioninn.co.uk/


Situated in Monmouthshire, in the heart of the picturesque Wye Valley, South Wales, The Lion Inn is a well established and extremely popular public house.

Built in the late 16th Century, actually completed in 1580, The Lion Inn was originally a coaching inn, brew house and pig farm. Many of the original features of the brewing cellar still remain, as do a number of outhouses that were used as pig sty's. The Lion is the only traditional Inn in the ancient village of Trellech. It consists of two rooms, both with open fires and exposed wooden beams. One room is used as a traditional village bar, the other as a restaurant area

William Job's baptism in Llandogo?

30 Sep 1883 William Job s of Job & Annie Watkins of Whitebrook Woodman

possible marriage of Job & Annie at Michell Troy

25 Jul 1882 Job WATKINS, X, 35, B, Woodman, otp. F: John Watkins, Woodman
Ann FOLLET, 35, S, otp. F: William Follet, farmer
Wit:- Levi Jeffries, X; Jane Tombs. By Banns

The members of GR i have sent messages to regarding Harrys siblings have all come back negative. I dont think the Lillie and Job found are the right ones, im a tad confused now.
Surely their cant be too families in the same town with the same mother and father names.
Im not really sure now how to proceed with my search.
Is the best thing to do - buy the marriage certificate of Lillie & Job? If so, how do i know that the marriage found is correct?
sorry for the babble but as you can tell im abit lost
Kindest regards
kelly

I would buy Lillie & William Job's marriage certificate. It is unlikely that there were be two sets of people with the same names, same fathers and occupations