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Charles Duval - mystery great-grandfather

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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 17 Nov 2009 10:42

Looks like your on the case Ann!!

1871 Census

Name: Charles Allen Duval
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizth
Gender: Male
Where born: N Wales, Anglesey, Wales
Civil parish: Moss Side
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Lancaster
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 74
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Allen Duval 61 Artist history Portrait & Marine
Elizth Duval 65
Minna Renney 42 Step Daughter
William Renney 36 Step Son
Norris Cartali Duval 20 Son
Ann Ashmore 40 Cook
Ellen Jones 23 Housemaid


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4007; Folio: 105; Page: 3; GSU roll: 846104.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Nov 2009 10:40

1881

Christopher ATKINSON Head M Male 32 Cleator, Cumberland, England Iron Ore Miner
Susan ATKINSON Wife M Female 30 Cleator, Cumberland, England
Elizabeth ATKINSON Dau U Female 18 Cleator, Cumberland, England Linen Thread Mill Worker
Agnes ATKINSON Dau U Female 15 Cleator, Cumberland, England Linen Thread Mill Worker
Ellen ATKINSON Dau U Female 13 Cleator, Cumberland, England Domestic Svt
Sarah ATKINSON Dau Female 9 Cleator, Cumberland, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 17 Wyndham St
Census Place Cleator, Cumberland, England
Family History Library Film 1342252
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5192 / 39
Page Number 71

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Nov 2009 10:38

this might be a connection bcause of the "Allen"

CHARLES ALLEN ANDREW DE VAL Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 20 JAN 1771 Saint Andrew, Holborn, London, England

Parents:
Father: JOHN DE VAL Family
Mother: ANN WALL


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Nov 2009 10:37

CHARLES ALLEN DU VAL Pedigree
Male Family


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Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH RENNEY Family
Marriage: 10 FEB 1834 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Nov 2009 10:36

CHARLES DUVAL Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 07 MAR 1836 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England
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Parents:
Father: CHARLES DUVAL Family
Mother: ELIZABETH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 17 Nov 2009 10:36

Is this him in 1841 please? Or have you ruled him out?

Name: Charles Duval
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Manchester
Hundred: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Chorlton upon Medlock
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Duval 30 Artist
Elizabeth Duval 30
Charles Duval 6
Gerald Duval 7 Mo
Jemima Renny 12
Catherine Gregory 15

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 580; Book: 18; Civil Parish: Manchester; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 33; Folio: 15; Page: 22; Line: 14; GSU roll: 438732.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Nov 2009 10:35

1881 - connection maybe?

Norris DUVAL Visitor (Head) M Male 30 Manchester, Lancashire, England Drysalter
Emily DUVAL Visitor M Female 30 Todmorden, York, England
Charles A. DUVAL Visitor Male 6 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Annie RUBERG Serv U Female 24 Shropshire, England General Servant
Minnie SPENCER Serv U Female 23 Derby, England General Servant


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Source Information:
Dwelling Bury Old Rd 2 Atlow Mount
Census Place Broughton In Salford, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341944
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3955 / 88
Page Number 26

Nicky

Nicky Report 17 Nov 2009 10:30

Would be grateful for any advice as have come up against a bit of a brick wall. My great-grandfather Charles Duval was baptised in Manchester Cathedral 7 March 1836. He was 28 years older than his wife Elizabeth Atkinson (b.1864 Carlisle). Had 4 children, 2 died in infancy, Cecily (b.1887) died in 1912. The other, another Charles Duval, my grandad, was born 1887. According to trade directories, great-grandfather Charles had a photography business in Manchester. The mystery is: no marriage certificate, no death certificate, and no entry for any of the family in any censuses until Elizabeth appears as widow in 1901. Where do I go next?