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Ozibird

Ozibird Report 20 Nov 2009 04:20

Mark, you're getting bombarded with info & becoming confused. You need to cut and paste it in chronological order. You can do this either electronically into something like Notepad, or print out this thread, then do it physically.

I gave you George Mowatt & Margaret Jane Ellison's marriage index reference and the 1901 census in my post of yesterday 20:21

Ozi

Astra

Astra Report 19 Nov 2009 21:41

It's 1871. Finding a positive hit for his birth is proving a problem. I checked Ada his sister and she was registered South Shields as Ada Ellison Mowat so you would think that Thomas would be the same. The only option is the one posted by Andrew which was registered in Tynemouth. There could have been a reason for it but you won't know if it's him or not unless you risk £7 and order it.

Shieldsman

Shieldsman Report 19 Nov 2009 21:38

astra your a star thanks ever so much. thats helped me loads thanks

Ive still got to try and find thomas ellison mowats date of birth still ?

Many thanks indeed your a absoulte star x

sorry forgot to ask what year was the above census from?

Astra

Astra Report 19 Nov 2009 21:31

Don't worry about it Mark it was when I was trying to match the names you listed. Margartet Jane Ellison had a brother called Thomas. I will delete it to avoid confusion

It seems that Laura,Stephen, Elizabeth and Sarah etc. the children of Thomas Mowat were cousins to your family. Thomas their father being the brother of George your Thomas's father.

This would appear to be them as young men with their parents

George Mowat
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: South Shields, Durham, England
Civil parish: South Shields
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: South Shields
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 214
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Mowat 51
Mary Mowat 51
Jane Ann Mowat 16
Thomas K Mowat 13
George Mowat 13


mgnv

mgnv Report 19 Nov 2009 21:22

Via http://www.northeastbmd.org.uk/
to http://www.southtyneside.info/communitysupport/register/search/default.aspx

Marriage search results for mowatt
*
1882 - 1 record found
o
+ George MOWATT
+ Spouse: Margaret J ELLISON
+ Register: C G4
+ Entry: 260
+ Date: 15/10/1882
+ Report error
[CG was the register for Holy Trinity]

Shieldsman

Shieldsman Report 19 Nov 2009 21:20

in 1891 it shows

George Mowat 28
Margaret Jane Mowat 26
Frances Mowat 9
George Mowat 5
Mary Mowat 5/12
Jane Ann Cooper Mowat 2

so that would fit in with another scribble with Thamas Ellision Mowat being born about 1893 however cant find any of them in the 1901 census?

However now confused about the above post which says thomas ellison mowat was margret janes sister?

Astra

Astra Report 19 Nov 2009 21:13

This is the family that has all of the people you listed,

Sarah Mowat
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas K
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Female
Where born: South Shields, Durham, England

Civil parish: South Shields
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael and All Angels
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas K Mowat 43
Margaret Mowat 44
Thomas R Mowat 16
Sarah Mowat 15
Elizabeth Mowat 11
Stephens Mowat 10
Laura Mowat 8
Margaret Mowat 5
George Mowat 2
Thomas Newton 20


Shieldsman

Shieldsman Report 19 Nov 2009 20:59

brilliant thanks x

Astra

Astra Report 19 Nov 2009 20:56

I'm just trying to match the names you listed from the diary. I didn't know Laura was your Grandmother.

Shieldsman

Shieldsman Report 19 Nov 2009 20:52

hi im totally lost now lol


However yeah Laura Mowat was a daughter of thomas ellison Mowat and Alic Cramman as she was my grandmother

Astra

Astra Report 19 Nov 2009 20:51

Births Mar 1927 (>99%)
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Mowat Laura Cromann S.Shields 10a 1388


Another spelling error but it appears Laura was a daughter of Thomas and Alice

Shieldsman

Shieldsman Report 19 Nov 2009 20:46

just found 1891 census

George Mowat 28
Margaret Jane Mowat 26
Frances Mowat 9
George Mowat 5
Mary Mowat 5/12
Jane Ann Cooper Mowat 2

??

Astra

Astra Report 19 Nov 2009 20:43

Try again. Last one was wrong so deleted.

Margaret J. Ellison
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Francis
Mother's Name: Mary A.
Gender: Female
Where born: South Shields, Durham, England

Civil parish: South Shields
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address: 109 Wapping St
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Ellison 39
Mary A. Ellison 36
Margaret J. Ellison 17
Thomas Ellison 9
Francis Ellison 7
Mary A. Ellison


Shieldsman

Shieldsman Report 19 Nov 2009 20:36

Im a little lost now as just checked some scribbles in the family diary and under there two names there are children and then the following names written

sarah
elizabeth
stephen
laura
Thomas Ellison
Margaret Mowat

So not sure if this is just names wrote or actuall children which makes me even more confused lol but do think its too much of a co incidence with the above

Andrew

Andrew Report 19 Nov 2009 20:30

Parents marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1882 (>99%)
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Ellison Margaret Jane S. Shields 10a 1005
MOWATT George S. Shields 10a 1005


Andy

Shieldsman

Shieldsman Report 19 Nov 2009 20:27

ah so we think that the spelling mistake is not only with the middle name appearing as A instead of E but now with the surname (did they not have spell checkers lol )

Thanks guys I will go and jot these down now thanks guys x

Andrew

Andrew Report 19 Nov 2009 20:23

1901


1901 England Census
about Thomas Monatt
Name: Thomas Monatt
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Margaret J
Gender: Male
Where born: South Shields, Durham, England

Civil parish: South Shields
Ecclesiastical parish: St. Stephens
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 99
Household Members: Name Age
George Monatt 39
Margaret J Monatt 36
Francis Monatt 19
George Monatt 14
Thomas Monatt 9
John Monatt 7 months
Harriett Monatt 4
Ada Monatt 7
Mary Monatt 11




Andy

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 19 Nov 2009 20:21

1901 England Census
Name: Thomas Monatt
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Margaret J
Gender: Male
Where born: South Shields, Durham, England
Civil parish: South Shields
Ecclesiastical parish: St. Stephens
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: 27 Military Rd

Occupation:

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 99
Household Members:
Name Age
George Monatt 39 - general labourer
Margaret J Monatt 36
Francis Monatt 19
George Monatt 14
Thomas Monatt 9
John Monatt 7 months
Harriett Monatt 4
Ada Monatt 7
Mary Monatt 11

All born South Shields.

Marriages Dec 1882
COOK Matthew Jackson S. Shields 10a 1005
Crawford Dorothy Hunter S. Shields 10a 1005
Ellison Margaret Jane S. Shields 10a 1005
MOWATT George S. Shields 10a 1005

Andrew

Andrew Report 19 Nov 2009 20:19

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)
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Cramman Alice Mowat S. Shields 10a 1553
Mowat Thomas A Cramman S.Shields 10a 1553

Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 19 Nov 2009 20:17

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1892 (>99%)
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Mowat Thomas Tynemouth 10b 278


Andy