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Sorry Janey I was going backwards instead of forwards. I screwed my head on the wrong way today. No, she wouldn't be Betty Bibby in 1841, and married before 1852 to a Bibby - normally.

Gina, where did you get your list of children from? I have checked on lan-opc and familysearch. I don't get a nice batch number giving them, appears to be only one at a time.

Have you found them for sure in other census records?

and the children dont match...

and we had betty as being 4 years younger than joshua. We found her birth record in Ulverston, Cumbria

that could well be them looking at it. I hadnt seen that record before. The dates are a couple of years out, but i dont think they were literate.

no - not in 1941 unfortunately

Could this possibly be the household in 1841 in Blackburn?

Joshua Bibby 30
Betty Bibby 30
Susannah Bibby 10
Betty Bibby 5
William Bibby 5
Richard Bibby 4
> George Bibby 1

(names are all transcribed correctly)

Meg, my 1841 household had no Sarah or George, both of whom would have been born by 1841 ...

I don't know about Lancashire records, but it would not be unusual for a young child's death not to be registered in the early days of registration.

In case you missed my post/edit on the previous page -- do you have the household in 1841???

Yeah that looks reasonable. Check out the other kids for the same christening place on familyhistory or lan-opc (which you've clearly used). No, Janey, it could be the same family in 1841 and 1851. with an age tweak and father missing. We shall see...

Its possible the child died, but i cant find her on teh freeBMD or on the lancashire records at http://www.lan-opc.org.uk

If the Elizabth in 1841 weren't married, she wouldn't likely be married and Bibby in 1851. ;)

It would be very useful if Gina would tell us what she does know about her Hannah and the family.

-- Oops, crossed in the post.

So it is the 1851 household in the post above.

Do you have that household in 1841?

Her siblings were;
Joshua 1826, MAry 1828, Nancy 1833, sarah 1837, George 1839, Joseph 1841, margaret 1843, thomas 1845, john 1846, william 1847

HANNAH BIBBY

Christening:
18 SEP 1831 St Mary-The-Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England

Parents:
Father: JOHN BIBBY
Mother: BETTY

Gina you say she is baptised 1831. Could that child have died? And a second Hannah born 1833? Hannah, Annie, Ann, Nancy, Nanny - all the same up in Lancashire, I've got dozens of them. And baptised at St Mary the Virgin too.

So Nancy in 1851 found by David could be Hannah, Thomas and Henery having left home. Wonder where dad was in 1841? Perhaps not married then.

NANCY BIBBY

Event(s):
Birth:
13 OCT 1833
Christening:
27 OCT 1833 Clayton Street Wesleyan, Blackburn, Lancashire,
Parents:
Father: JNO. BIBBY
Mother: BETTY

Gina,

I have come across a few Hannah/Nancy combinations, I wonder if that is her on the 1851 census YOB about right..........My nans sister was baptised Hannah and known all her life as Nancy.

Ann

Well that's a whole different family from the one I had in 1841!

Gina, maybe you would let us know who her siblings were and whether you have her/them in 1841, 1851 ... and provide the census info here?

She disappeared before 1851

Name: John Bibby
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1803
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Betty
Gender: Male
Where born: Over Yearsdealo, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Blackburn
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Blackburn
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub-registration district: Blackburn
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 128
Household Members:
Name Age

John Bibby 48
Betty Bibby 47
Nancy Bibby 17
Sarah Bibby 14
George Bibby 12
Joseph Bibby 10
John Bibby 5
Mary Bibby 3
Thomas Croasdle 25

Have you found her in the 1841 census with parent(s)?

Is this her?

Name: Hannah Bibby
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Blackburn

Elizabeth Bibby 30
Thomas Bibby 13
Henery Bibby 10
Hannah Bibby 8


Just so there's an indication she survived past 1837!

sorry - just added it to the original post - i forgot!