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mel going to look into your last post! suzi

thanks for everyones help :O)
i was thinking the same, could frederick be the son of a Elizabeth Lark(josephs daughter)????
there is definatley no marriage for a george lark and a elizabeth read(even if they are not fredericks parents)
well maybe it is not meant to be solved, still going to search tho. thanks again, suzi.

Just thinking Joseph Lark's first son was Joseph about 1841 and there is a marriage in 1863 of a Joseph Lark and then there's a death of a Joseph Lark in 1865. Now there are three womens name on the marriage but we don't know which one he might have married.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Joseph Lark
Name: Joseph Lark
Year of Registration: 1863
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Yarmouth (1837-1924)
County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 8

Mary Canham 1863 Yarmouth (1837-1924) Norfolk

Edward Daniels 1863 Yarmouth (1837-1924) Norfolk

Martha Gibbs 1863 Yarmouth (1837-1924) Norfolk

Joseph Lark 1863 Yarmouth (1837-1924) Norfolk

Elizabeth Ulph 1863 Yarmouth (1837-1924) Norfolk

There is also a mans name missing from that record above.

But what if Joseph died in 1865 the year we think Frederick was born and then his mum remarried. Fred could be put down as the new fathers name.

It's very strange isn't it?

Could the birth cert be wrong as Suzi said the marriage cert had no father's name on.

Christine

Joseph's marriage

JOSEPH LARK Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: MARIA COLLINS Family
Marriage: 23 NOV 1840 St Nicholas, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

I have now gone through the 35 pages of the 1871 census where Joseph and family are. there is only one Elizabeth possibly Read and she is old and a widow. Joseph seems to be the only Lark on there.

I looked through 42 pages of a census this morning for Yarmouth because I saw a Sarh Lark but it was all Market Square and St Nicholas rd. Now I have seen Christines post Joseph Lark 1814 is on the 1861 census with a lot of his children but no Frederick. I wonder if he was the love begot child of one of his daughters???

Forgot to say he is living at 5 yard Row 139.

1861 England Census
about Joseph Lark
Name: Joseph Lark
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Maria
Gender: Male
Where born: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Great Yarmouth St Nicholas
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
Town: Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Southern
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 124
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Lark 47
Maria Lark 33
Joseph Lark 20
Maria Lark 18
Elizabeth Lark 16
Hannah Lark 20
Amelia Lark 7
Walter Lark 3
William Lark 13
James Lark 8 Mo

RG9; Piece: 1191; Folio: 41; Page: 25

yes it is the same address, 139 row yarmouth, thanks will take a look, suzi

Is 139 Row the address on the birth cert you have for Frederick?

There is a Joseph Lark born c 1814 living there in a few census records.

Christine

thankyou ruth, i will look into this one....
in the 1891 census
i have found a charles lark, wife elizabeth and daughter elizabeth read, she is married to charles read and they have daughter elizabeth read age 1, there address is 137 row yarmouth, this is funny as i am looking for lark and read at 139 row yarmouth????????????????????????????????????

Hi Suzi

There is this one living in Suffolk born c1862 but his place of birth is Yarmouth. Parents are also different to the ones you quote:-

Name: Frederic Lark
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Kirkley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Lowestoft
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Mutford
Sub-registration district: Kessingland
ED, institution, or vessel: 7a
Household schedule number: 300
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Lark 48
Sarah Ann Lark 46
Tom Lark 18
Clara Lark 17
John Lark 14
Frederic Lark 9

regards

Ruth

Morning Suzi. So we are still looking for Frederick Larke/Lark on the 1871 census where he will be about 5 or 6??

thanks michele i have this census, its placing him before 1891 i am very stuck on????? i can understand maybe in the 1881 census he is out at sea, but in the 1871 census he will only be of a young age???? regards suzi.

thanks mel, you have been great, this is very confusing, frederick has to be aroung somewhere?????????????/ and thanks to everyone who has helped, right!!! now for more searching, regards suzi.

Will have another look tomorrow as I need my bed!!

I must just add though, it is sooooo nice to have someone answer our questions on a thread Suzi. Usually people just put a question up and never reply, well a lot anyway. I never go any further with them even if I could.

So thanks for your replies.

Mel x

Well we seem to be able to follow Elizabeth Smith but not her Frederick but if he was a fisherman then he could have been at sea on the other census too but not when he was tiny!!!!!!

He must be there somewhere mistranscribed.

AMELIA SMITH Pedigree
Female Family

Marriages:
Spouse: WILLIAM THOMAS HARMEN Family
Marriage: 27 SEP 1881 St Nicholas, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England


Source Information:
No source information is available.

Then we have to be on the right track!!!! Hooray..............

Not an Extracted record but this is from IGI

George SMITH Pedigree
Male Family


Marriages:
Spouse: Caroline COOK Family
Marriage: 30 APR 1849 St Nicholas, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church.

thankyou