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Suzi

Suzi Report 7 Dec 2009 22:17

william and amilia harmen , witnesses

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Dec 2009 22:13

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about George Smith
Name: George Smith
Year of Registration: 1855
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Yarmouth (1837-1924)
County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 3

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Dec 2009 22:09

So who were the witnesses on the marriage cert. please?

Suzi

Suzi Report 7 Dec 2009 22:06

yes i have, and it doesn't give fathers for Elizabeth or frederick.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Dec 2009 22:06

I wonder if Caroline was married??????????

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about George Smith
Name: George Smith
Year of Registration: 1849
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Yarmouth (1837-1924)
County: Norfolk
Volume: 13
Page: 559


Mary Ann Baker 1849 Yarmouth (1837-1924) Norfolk

Thirza Bonifant 1849 Yarmouth (1837-1924) Norfolk

Amelia Briggs 1849 Yarmouth (1837-1924) Norfolk

Edward Castle 1849 Yarmouth (1837-1924) Norfolk

>>>>>>> Caroline Cook 1849 Yarmouth (1837-1924) Norfolk

William Holsworth 1849 Yarmouth (1837-1924) Norfolk

>>>>> George Smith 1849 Yarmouth (1837-1924) Norfolk
1851 England Census
about Caroline Smith
Name: Caroline Smith
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Northern
ED, institution, or vessel: 1m
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
George Smith 21 Corn Porter
Caroline Smith 21


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Dec 2009 21:54

Suzi have you got the marriage cert of Fred and Elizabeth? If you have what was Elizabeth's fathers name on it. Was It George Smith??????????????????

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Dec 2009 21:41

1861 England Census
about Robert Sherwood
Name: Robert Sherwood
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Caroline
Gender: Male
Where born: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Great Yarmouth St Nicholas
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
Town: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: HAWKER<<<<<<<<

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Northern
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 105
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Sherwood 34
Caroline Sherwood 31
Caroline Sherwood 5


ADDRESS No 5 Row 12

poss birth for mother
Caroline Emily Smith Pedigree
Female

Birth:
Christening: 01 MAR 1830 Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Samuel Smith Family
Mother: Mary Ann

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

I032245

Suzi

Suzi Report 7 Dec 2009 21:39

thats great mel

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Dec 2009 21:37

1881 England Census
about Robert Sherwood
Name: Robert Sherwood
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address: Row 28 Passage <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:


Occupation: General Labourer

Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Northern
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Sherwood 55


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Dec 2009 21:33

Yes I meant to mention that on the census with Caoline Minns he was a Fishmonger.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Dec 2009 21:31

Aha!!!! the 1881 census reveals ALL.


This should have the head of the house on it and guess who he is??????
Yes your right Robert Sherwood. Then Caroline Smith unmarried with daughters Amelia and Elizabeth, Caroline must have already married John Minns.

The mother Caroline is a Silk Winder same as other census and I think the address is the same.

1881 England Census
about Elizabeth Smith
Name: Elizabeth Smith
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Female
Where born: Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address: Row 28 Passage
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Northern
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Smith 49
Amelia Smith 18
Elizabeth Smith 13


I will just go back and look up Robert Sherwood on this census

Suzi

Suzi Report 7 Dec 2009 21:25

mel, frderick was a fisherman so that may explain his absent in the 1901 census.

Suzi

Suzi Report 7 Dec 2009 21:23

mel, i will look this up, thanks

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Dec 2009 21:18

This is really strange because this Eliabeth has a sister Caroline who is about the right age to be the Caroline Minns on the 1891 census.

On the 1901 census I put up Elizabeth is married and not a widow so Frederick must be somewhere. I wonder if the mother Caroline Sherwood had remarried and the children were down as Sherwood instead of Smith??????????

I have now looked up the 1871 census for Robert Sherwood and this is it.


1871 England Census
about Caroline Sherwood
Name: Caroline Sherwood
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Female
Where born: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Great Yarmouth
Town: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Northern
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 126
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Sherwood 43
Caroline Sherwood 39
Caroline Sherwood 15
Amelia Sherwood 8
Elizabeth Sherwood 3

RG10; Piece: 1788; Folio: 122; Page: 20

Suzi

Suzi Report 7 Dec 2009 21:10

hi, i will look into these 2 thanks, suzi.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Dec 2009 20:54

1901 England Census
about Elizabeth Lark
Name: Elizabeth Lark
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Great Yarmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Great Yarmouth St Nicholas
Town: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Northern
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 226
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Lark 34
Frederick Lark 8
Annie Lark 6
Charles Lark 5
Caroline Lark 1

This one has another person in the household a Robert Sherwood 71 born Gt Yarmouth unfit to work and he is down as father.

Astra

Astra Report 7 Dec 2009 20:53

George H. Lark
Age: 59
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Chatham, Kent, England

Civil parish: Chatham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address: 8 Radnor Sqr
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Bricklayer

Registration district: Medway
Sub-registration district: Gillingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George H. Lark 59
Sarah Ann Lark 39
George Lark 18
Edward Lark 16
Elizabeth Lark 13
Sarah Ann Lark 11
Charles Lark 8
William Lark 5
Mary Ann Lark 3
Anna Lark 1
George Ratter 39


Suzi

Suzi Report 7 Dec 2009 20:44

hi , thanks very much everyone, i have these, suzi

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Dec 2009 20:29

FREDERICK LARK Pedigree
Male Family


Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH SMITH Family
Marriage: 16 FEB 1887 St Nicholas, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England


Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Dec 2009 20:27

This would be the birth of the one with sister in law then. Is this the one you have Suzi?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Frederick Lark
Name: Frederick Lark
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Yarmouth (1837-1924)
County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 6