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Ok.....I admit to being a bit confused here with details of Jessie Irish - married name of Quick. and would wlcome some help in clarifying please.......

so far, this is the only FACT that I have: ( from her death record)
Name: Jessie Lena Quick
Birth Date: 29 Oct 1890

I have searched FreeBMD & cant find a Jessie Lena Quick born 1890.

Can anyone help find & confirm her birth please.... then, I can hopefully identify, which Jessie in all the info that II have been given, is the CORRECT Jessie......

Many thanks

This is Portsea Jessie. Yours was born in 1890 according to both her marriage and her death certificates.



1881 census transcription details for: 32, Collingwood Rd, Portsea
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 1161 Folio: 147 Page: 31

Reg. District: Portsea Island Sub District: Landport
Parish: Portsea Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 32, Collingwood Rd, Portsea
County: Hampshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
IRISH, Charles Head Married M 28 1853 Coachman (Cab Driver)
Havant
Hampshire
IRISH, Jane E Wife Married F 28 1853 Coachmans Wife
Portsea
Hampshire
IRISH, Florence Daughter Single F 2 1879
Portsea
Hampshire
IRISH, Jessie Daughter Single F 1 1880
Portsea
Hampshire

Here is Rosa in 1881. No idea who the Tworts are though.



1881 census transcription details for: Theatre Lane, Chichester St Peter The Great Aka Sub-Deanery
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 1128 Folio: 40 Page: 8

Reg. District: Chichester Sub District: Chichester
Parish: Chichester St Peter the Great Aka Sub-Deanery Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Theatre Lane, Chichester St Peter The Great Aka Sub-Deanery
County: Sussex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
TWORT, John Head Married M 60 1821 Army Pensioner
Horsmonden
Kent
TWORT, Rossina Wife Married F 45 1836
Chichester
Sussex
IRSH, Rosea Visitor Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Chichester
Sussex


and Esther with Keziah. Have missed all the other names out.



1881 census transcription details for: North Road Workhouse, North Road, Chichester St Peter The Great Aka Sub-Deanery
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 1128 Folio: 113 Page: 20

Reg. District: Chichester Sub District: Chichester
Parish: Chichester St Peter the Great Aka Sub-Deanery Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: North Road Workhouse, North Road, Chichester St Peter The Great Aka Sub-Deanery
County: Sussex

IRISH, Keziah Inmate Single F 24 1857 Wash Woman
Boxgrove
Sussex
IRISH, Esther Inmate Single F 4 1877 Ilegamt Child
Boxgrove
Sussex

Rosa is in the same place as Jessie in 1901. There is also an Esther. Not sure where they fit in yet.


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1891 census transcription details for: Lavant Home, Stoke Road, Lavant, Mid Lavant
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 845 Folio: 5 Page: 4

Reg. District: Westhampnett Sub District: Singleton
Parish: Lavant Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District: Mid Lavant City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Lavant Home, Stoke Road, Lavant, Mid Lavant
County: Sussex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
MORSLEY, Sarah Head Single F 49 1842 Matron
Glemham
Suffolk
WETTON, Martha Teacher Single F 43 1848 School Mistress
Stockbridge
Hampshire
LUNFORD, Laura Single F 15 1876 Scholar
Pulborough
Sussex
DIGGINGS, Dora Single F 15 1876 Scholar
Lavant
Sussex
>>IRISH, Rosa Single F 15 1876 Scholar
Chichester
Sussex
ALABASTER, Ellen Single F 15 1876 Scholar
Chichester
Sussex
FARLEY, Ellen Single F 13 1878 Scholar
Chichester
CLARE, Louisa Single F 15 1876 Scholar
Littlehampton
Sussex
WILSON, Elizabeth Single F 14 1877 Scholar
Horsham
Sussex
BAYLEY, Elizabeth Single F 13 1878 Scholar
Westbourne
Sussex
COOK, Ruth Single F 13 1878 Scholar
Bognor
Sussex
KNIGHT, Alice Single F 13 1878 Scholar
Chichester
Sussex
WILSON, Harriett Single F 13 1878 Scholar
Horsham
Sussex
STRUDWICK, Alice Single F 12 1879 Scholar
Westbourne
Sussex
FOX, Annie Single F 12 1879 Scholar
Chichester
Sussex
RENNOLDS, Florence Single F 12 1879 Scholar
Horsham
Sussex
>>IRISH, Esther Single F 11 1880 Scholar
Chichester
Sussex
MILLER, Elizabeth Single F 11 1880 Scholar
Fishbourne
Sussex
PIERCE, Ellen Single F 10 1881 Scholar
Horsham
Sussex
RENNOLDS, Ellen Single F 10 1881 Scholar
Horsham
Sussex
BROADRICK, Ada Single F 9 1882 Scholar
Westhampnett
Sussex
COOK, Louisa Single F 9 1882 Scholar
Bognor
Sussex

Gillian - looks OK, except that Ancestry has put Wandsworth in Middlesex instead of Surrey - looks like American geography to me - they fought the battle of Bunker Hill on Breeds Hill, and have been stuffing up with geography ever since.

Is Rose, Lilian Dudman (nee Irish ) - Jessie Irish sister?

Hi Alviegal

Do we believe that the 1901 & 1891 census that you found for Jessie Irish - with her mother - Kate - are incorrect_? as the info ( geography etc) doesnt quite fit with the rest of the info that we have found.........
I have Jessie born in Portsea - not Chichester.

As I want to give this info to my father in law at Xmas ( its his family) ...I obviously want to make sure that I have all the correct details........so anyone helping me to 'double check' would be greatly appreciated
Two pairs of eyes are better than one etc.....

Gill

Wow.again! That is so much to take in.

I really cant thank everyone enough.......I will read through the 'Irish' family onfo carefully and see what it all means ( on a chart)

Thanks again
Gill

Just as an aside,I think the "Mrs Lillian DUDMAN" -witness on the marriage cert actually reads "Rosa Lillian DUDMAN".
1911 census transcription details for: 142 Replingham Road Southfields SW

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN2408 RG78PN80 RD26 SD7 ED17 SN19


Reg. District: Wandsworth Sub District: Southfields
Parish: Wandsworth Enum. District: 17
Address: 142 Replingham Road Southfields SW
County: London
DUDMAN, Arthur William Head Married M 36 1875 Railway Signalman Sussex Lodsworth
DUDMAN, Rosa Lillian Wife Married F 35 1876 Sussex Chichester
DUDMAN, Rose Amelia Lily Daughter F 14 1897 School Sussex Lurgashall
DUDMAN, Violet Elsie Daughter F 12 1899 School Sussex Lodsworth
DUDMAN, Frederick John Son M 8 1903 London Southfields
DUDMAN, Ernest William Son M 5 1906 London Southfields
DUDMAN, Ivy Daughter F 3 1908 London Southfields

Marriages Dec 1895
Dudman Arthur William Midhurst 2b 799
Irish Rose Lilian Midhurst 2b 799

Maureen

1881 England Census
about John Irish
Name: John Irish
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Gender: Male
Where born: Chichester, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Stoke Damerel
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address: "The Raglan Barracks" St Aubyn Devonport
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Private

Registration district: Stoke Damerel
Sub-registration district: St Aubyn
ED, institution, or vessel: The Raglan Barracks
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hill 36
Richard Hillnson 23
Francis Hiscox 34
James Holeman 24
Frank Holly 22
William Holmes 34
Thomas Hopkins 32
Daniel Hopton 36
James Hopton 27
George Howel 34
John Hughes 30
Thomas Hughes 25
Adolphus Huish 22
James Husban 31
James Hyland 29
James Hyndman 24
Isaac Harris 22
Thomas Hunt 35
Walter Iles 21
Charles Ingersent 19
John Ingerscent 28
John Irish 21
John Jennings 20
William Johnson 22
James Johnson 22
John Jolliffe 24


1871 census transcription details for: Fairfield Lane, St Pancras, Chichester
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10 Piece: 1118 Folio: 96 Page: 32

Reg. District: Chichester Sub District: Chichester
Parish: St Pancras Enum. District: 12
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Chichester
Address: Fairfield Lane, St Pancras, Chichester
County: Sussex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
IRISH, Fanny Head F 48 1823 Sussex charwoman
IRISH, Clement Son M 19 1852 Sussex
IRISH, Fanny Daughter F 16 1855 Sussex
IRISH, Sarah Daughter F 12 1859 Sussex
IRISH, John Son M 8 1863 Sussex

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Jessie Lena Quick
Name: Jessie Lena Quick
Birth Date: 29 Oct 1890
Death Registration Month/Year: 1971
Registration district: Epping
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 2097

The tree on ancestry has this census attached to her. It states she was born in Chichester, 29 Oct 1890 to John Rodgers Irish and Kesiah Irish, daughter of John Irish and Kesiah Smith. The tree is pretty detailed so it would be worth getting in touch with the owner.



1891 England Census
about Kate Irish
Name: Kate Irish
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Boxgrove, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Sub Deanery
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Chichester
Sub-registration district: Chichester
ED, institution, or vessel: Chichester Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Kate Irish 33
John Irish 9
Jessie Irish 4 b Notting Hill

The only Jessie I'm finding. Possibly not her though as I've found her in 1891 with her mother Kate Irish who is described as single.


1901 census transcription details for: Lavant Home, Mid Lavant, Lavant
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 968 Folio: 85 Page: 5

Reg. District: Westhampnett Sub District: Boxgrove
Parish: Lavant Enum. District: 8
Ecclesiastical District: St Nicholas City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Lavant Home, Mid Lavant, Lavant
County: Sussex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
KEMBLE, Annie A Matron Single F 47 1854 Matron Of Lavant Home
Amphey Crucis
Gloucestershire
SIMMONDS, Fanny Governess Widow F 37 1864 Governess
Chichester
Sussex
RUSSELL, Ellen Pupil Single F 16 1885
Westbourne
Sussex
STEER, Elizabeth Pupil F 16 1885
Horsham
Sussex
HAMPSHIRE, Rosa Pupil F 16 1885
Salisbury
Wiltshire
ISAAC, Rose Pupil F 15 1886
Chichester
Sussex
SPITTALS, Margaret Pupil F 15 1886
Crawley
Sussex
SAVAGE, Florence Pupil F 15 1886
Chichester
Sussex
JUPP, Alice Pupil F 15 1886
Horsham
Sussex
PARKER, Elizabeth Pupil F 14 1887
Horsham
Sussex
HAMPSHIRE, Beatrice Pupil F 14 1887
Horsham
Sussex
>>>IRISH, Jessie Pupil F 13 1888
Chichester
Sussex
PRESCOTT, Tresa Pupil F 13 1888
Australia Queensland
STOCKDALE, Kate Pupil F 13 1888
Chichester
Sussex
SOUTER, Mabel Pupil F 13 1888
Chichester
Sussex
HAMILTON, May Pupil F 13 1888
Eastbourne
Sussex
CHEAL, Florence Pupil F 12 1889
Horsham
Sussex
MORGAN, Ellen Pupil F 11 1890
Chichester
Sussex
SKINNER, Rose Pupil F 11 1890
Horsham
Sussex
SMITHERS, Rosina Pupil F 11 1890
Horsham
Sussex
KING, Maud Pupil F 11 1890
Chichester
Sussex
COLE, Lily Pupil F 10 1891
Chichester
Sussex

I would imagine being a tram driver was a better paid job than ag lab, which was very poorly paid, so maybe when he got married he was lucky enough to get a job in Bristol, where both the boys were born.
Jessie was from London and was in Chudleigh, Devon ,in 1911 so perhaps they met when he returned home. I know Chudleigh and Uplyme, where his mother was, are not close but who knows?
Anyway, I would imagine she went back home to get married.

Hi again folks.........I just wanted to thank everyone for their help today - been invaluable.....I am trying to find as much info about Reginald Quick & his wife Jessie Lena Irish as possible before Xmas as I have my in-laws visiting ( in their late 80's ) and my father in law is the grandson of Reg Quick...........obviously, there is not a lot of time to confirm everything with certs ( or the money to be honest)...but I would like to be as sure as possible ..as I would like to give a mini family tree to my father in law whilst he is visiting me.

This is what I have ( amongst other things)....

1891 Green Acre, Axmouth
QUICK, Reginald Grandson M 2 1889 Bristol

1901 Shapwick, Uplyme
QUICK, Reginald Step Son Single M 12 1889 Bristol

1911 census - LITTLEBREDY DORCHESTER

QUICK, REGINALD CHARLES HEAD JOINT OCCUPIER SINGLE M 22 DOMESTIC GARDENER GLOU BRISTOL
QUICK REGINALD CHARLES (RG14PN12404 RG78PN707 RD264 SD3 ED7 SN14)
Address BOTHY LITTLEBREDY DORCHESTER County Dorsetshire

1915 - Marriage - Wandsworth

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Reginald Charles Quick Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Spouse Name: Jessie Lena Irish Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 16 Oct 1915
Parish: Saint Barnabas, Southfields County: Middlesex
Borough: Wandsworth

Father Name: Alfred Quick (decd) Tram Conductor
Spouse Father Name: John Irish (decd) Soldier


Do we believe that this is the SAME Reginald Quick in all of these cases?

Also, as an aside, it would be great if I could find out about the parents of Jessie Irish
Just their names ...birth...marriage....and occupation would be great.....
I have already looked on free BMD for a pos marriage......but I am not terribly good as I really couldnt find anything at all......

so, if anyone is able to help with this last 'call' .....that would be really great.

Once again
Thank you so much
Gill

Hi Liz

You are too quick for me.......

( I think that our messages have 'crossed' & you have now answered the Quicks re-marriage question - thank you.

Somewhere between 1881 - Alfred - farm lab & 1891 Alfred's death......is it possible that he became a tram conductor - as , in the original marriage of his son Reginald, this is how he was described.......
Father Name: Alfred Quick (decd) Tram Conductor
and
I wonder why Reginald had moved to Wandsworth & married there?


Gill

Mary Gapper was married to Alfred Quick. When he died, Mary Quick married Walter Henry Perry and had the 3 children who are named last in the census. They should have the surname Quick but have been mistranscribed.

The marriages are all in the thread but perhaps they are not very easy to see.

Liz

Wow....that is so much info (from the very little, that I had to start with )...Thank you all so much.

Liz

I notice that on the 1901census for the 'Quick ' family - the head & wife were called ' Perry' - is that because they had been married before? ie - how do the 'Quicks' children come about?

Alfred??


1881 census transcription details for: Forton Village, Chard
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 2386 Folio: 112 Page: 1

Reg. District: Chard Sub District: Chard
Parish: Chard Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Forton Village, Chard
County: Somersetshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
QUICK, William Head Married M 52 1829 Farm Laborer Carter
Combe Pyne
Devon
QUICK, Mary Ann Wife Married F 51 1830
Chard
Somerset
QUICK, Alfred Tom Son Single M 17 1864 Farm Laborer
Axminster
Devon
QUICK, Wm James Son Single M 13 1868 Scholar
Axminster
Devon


1871 census transcription details for: Loomcroft, Wambrook
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10 Piece: 2404 Folio: 36 Page: 12

Reg. District: Chard Sub District: Combe St Nicholas
Parish: Wambrook Enum. District: 9
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Loomcroft, Wambrook
County: Somersetshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
QUICK, William Head M 43 1828 ag lab Devon
QUICK, Mary Ann Wife F 42 1829 Somerset
QUICK, John Son M 18 1853 Devon
QUICK, George Son M 11 1860 Devon
>>>QUICK, Tom Son M 7 1864 Devon
QUICK, James Son M 3 1868 Devon



1861 census transcription details for: Knapp, Violets Row, Musbury
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09 Piece: 1374 Folio: 6 Page: 6

Reg. District: Axminster Sub District: 4 Colyton
Parish: Musbury Enum. District: 9
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Knapp, Violets Row, Musbury
County: Devonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
QUICK, William Head Married M 33 1828 Carter
Combpyne
QUICK, Ann M Wife Married F 32 1829 Lace Maker
Chard
Somerset
QUICK, John Son Unmarried M 8 1853 Scholar
Musbury
Devon
QUICK, Walter Son M 5 1856 Scholar
Combpyne
QUICK, George Son M 0 (10M) 1861
Musbury




1851 census transcription details for: Lower Brackland, Road To Cambpyne, Musbury
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1862 Folio: 627 Page: 13

Reg. District: Axminster Sub District: Colyton
Parish: Musbury Enum. District: 3B
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Lower Brackland, Road To Cambpyne, Musbury
County: Devonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
LOVERIDGE, William Head Married M 62 1789 Farmer Of 150 Acres Employing 3 Men & 2 Boys
Musbury
Devonshire
LOVERIDGE, Peggy Wife Married F 59 1792 Farmers Wife
Axminster
Devonshire
LOVERIDGE, William Son Unmarried M 29 1822 Farmer's Son
Shute
Devonshire
LOVERIDGE, Anna Daughter Unmarried F 27 1824 Farmers Daur
Shute
Devonshire
LOVERIDGE, James G Son Unmarried M 25 1826 Farmers Son
Musbury
Devonshire
LOVERIDGE, Patience Daughter Unmarried F 21 1830 Farmers Daur
Musbury
Devonshire
LOVERIDGE, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 15 1836 Farmers Daur
Musbury
Devonshire
QUICK, William Servant Unmarried M 24 1827 House Serv
Coombpyne
Devonshire
COLLINS, James Servant Unmarried M 13 1838 House Serv
Musbury
Devonshire


Possible marriage for William.


Marriages Sep 1852 (>99%)
Cornelius Mary Ann Axminster 5b 15 Scan available - click to view
Quick William Axminster 5b 15

What about this one?

Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%)
Gapper Mary Axminster 5b 15 Scan available - click to view
QUICK Alfred Tom Axminster 5b 15


Deaths Sep 1889 (>99%)
Quick Alfred Thomas 26 Axminster 5b 7


1891 census transcription details for: Green Acre, Axmouth, Charton
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 1669 Folio: 97 Page: 5

Reg. District: Axminster Sub District: Colyton
Parish: Axmouth Enum. District: 10
Ecclesiastical District: Axmouth City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Green Acre, Axmouth, Charton
County: Devonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
GAPPER, Robert Head Married M 63 1828 Agricultural Laborer
Whitechurch
Dorsetshire
GAPPER, ? Wife Married F 60 1831
Uplyme
Devonshire
GAPPER, Charles Son Single M 37 1854 Agricultural Laborer
Lyme Regis
Dorsetshire
QUICK, Mary Daughter Widow F 30 1861 Laundress
Uplyme
Devonshire
GAPPER, James Son Single M 16 1875 Agricultural Laborer
Uplyme
Devonshire
QUICK, William Grandson M 4 1887 Scholar
Bristol
Gloucestershire
QUICK, Reginald Grandson M 2 1889
Bristol
Gloucestershire



1901
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 2016 Folio: 23 Page: 11

Reg. District: Axminster Sub District: Lyme
Parish: Uplyme Enum. District: 4
Ecclesiastical District: Uplyme S S Peter & Paul City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Shapwick, Uplyme
County: Devonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
PERRY, Walter H Head Married M 37 1864 Labourer
Axmouth
PERRY, Mary Wife Married F 40 1861
Shapwick
Dorsetshire
QUICK, William A Step Son Single M 14 1887 Labourer
Bristol
Gloucestershire
QUICK, Reginald Step Son Single M 12 1889
Bristol
QUICK, Arthur J Son M 4 1897
Combpyne (should be Perry)
Devonshire
QUICK, Edith M Daughter F 2 1899
Combpyne (should be Perry)
QUICK, Ewart H Son M 1 1900
Shapwick
Dorsetshire (should be Perry)


This all ties in with the 1911 that Choccy found for you. He is on his own in 1911.


Marriages Dec 1895 (>99%)
Perry Walter Henry Axminster 5b 1 Scan available - click to view
Quick Mary Axminster 5b 1

Liz