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Tracy and Bruce,
Many thanks to both for information re child of John Henry and wife. Need some shut eye now and will pick up thread again tomorrow, so night night.

Since the parties are undoubtedly deceased I'll post this marriage, which is the only good match by time and place

Name: Robert H Thacker
Spouse Surname: Sparkes -- Patricia J Sparkes
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1947
Registration district: Droitwich
Registration county (inferred): Worcestershire
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 178

And they too had one child in 1952. Is this what you're looking for, descendants? The birth info can be sent to you privately if so.

More specifically FreeBMD, Paul. Did you do the search there?

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Tania did it in your other thread and posted the one Thacker-Bate birth showing. I just checked the full 1916-1985 index at Ancestry and it's the only one. Here it is again:

Births Jun 1923 (>99%)
Thacker Robert H Bate Cannock 6b 846

I haven't educated myself on your entire thread I'm afraid but that seems to be the answer to that question.

I've looked at Ancestry for a death for a Robert H Bate born 1923, up to 2005, but there doesn't seem to be one. I wonder about WWII. Well no, I'm stupid, he was Thacker, not Bate. And this is his death I would think

Name: Robert Henry Thacker
Birth Date: 11 Mar 1923
Death Registration Month/Year: Oct 1989
Age at death (estimated): 66
Registration district: Bromsgrove
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 29
Page: 148

All who responded to my subject "tracing a great uncle" were very helpful in their suggestions and information provided. The birth certificate was sent for and this confirmed that it was John Henry Thacker NOT John Willis who was in our tree. We believe he married in 1921 (Jan/Mch quarter 6b 1134) a lady with surname (maiden) Bate. Whilst we wait for marriage certificate to confirm, can anyone suggest if there is a best way to find any children. Bruce has suggested that we go through Rootsweb.

MaureeninNY

Sorry Maureen, a case of 'a senior moment', after a while we realised it stood for Find My Past but by the time I was getting back to you, you had beat me to it. Many thanks anyway.
Paul and Ann

Sorry,Paul-Findmypast.
Maureen

MaureeninNY

Sorry to appear thick but you answered that the 1911 census details were from FMP. What does FMP stand for as when I just enter FMP nothing comes up that makes sense

Thanks

Conclusion is Paul is looking for John Henry and not John willis.
Oh well past a bit of time on.


Take care Maryb

Looks right to me,Maryb. That poor fellow seemed to have come out of the war a bit shaken up. I have my doubts if he married.

Maureen

So he is John Henry Thacker then.Parents thomas and sarah.

John Willis Thacker number is 49144 year 1916 parents John Willis and Martha nee Frogatt

Maryb

And the address is 39 Piggott St which matches OK with the 1911.
Oh dear-dementia praecox??

Maureen

OK- John Henry Thacker's service records list him as single.
Name: John Henry Thacker
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Age at Enlistment: 19
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 17699
Regiment Name: Oxford & Bucks LI
Number of Images: 17

Gives next of kin as Thomas Charles and Sarah Matilda Thacker.

Maureen

Edit: P.S. Gillian-were you looking at the pension records. I swear it's there. Not that it matters anymore!!!

Thacker /Blakemore births.

J/F/M 1917 male thacker.
J/F.M 1918 Percy E
J/F/M 1920 Doris L
J/F/M 1922 Muriel B
J/A/S 1924 Ivy J
O/N/D 1926 Joyce m
All registered in Cannock

These all tie in with JWT 1896 marrying in 1916 and being the one in the army with dad being JWT 1866

Maryb

Oh, Maureen you are absolutely right ! Well done ! and what a waste of time and energy on the wrong man

Maureen see my edited last message about Selina.

Maureen -I have beeen through the whole 13 pages again (twice!) and cant see the ref to wife but the images are all a bit blurred and indistinct -I viewed them on Ancestry -maybe you have a clearer view where you saw them
Dont think it matters much in terms of facts whether he lied on one sheet and told the truth on another

Oh heck. Are we looking at the wrong fellow???
1911 census transcription details for: Rawnsley New Buildings

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN16957 RG78PN1047 RD368 SD2 ED24 SN96


Reg. District: Cannock Sub District: Cannock
Parish: Cannock Enum. District: 24
Address: Rawnsley New Buildings
County: Staffordshire

THACKER, John Willis Husband Married M 45 1866 Miner Underground Coal Staff Gentleshaw
THACKER, Martha Wife Married
21 years F 48 1863 Warickshire Fazeley
THACKER, Henry Theodoer Son Single M 18 1893 Miner Under Ground Staff Littleworth
THACKER, David Joseph Son Single M 16 1895 Engine Driver Under Staff Littleworth
THACKER, John Willis Son Single M 15 1896 Miner Under Ground Staff Littleworth
THACKER, Percy Edwin Son M 13 1898 Miner On Bank Staff Littleworth
THACKER, Charley Fred Son M 9 1902 Staff Rawnsley
THACKER, Walter Horace Son M 8 1903 Staff Rawnsley
BLAKEMORE, Doris Louisa Daughter Married F 20 1891 Staff Gentleshaw
BLAKEMORE, John Son In Law Married M 29 1882 Miner Under Ground Staff Wallsall Wood


1911 census transcription details for: Piggott St Wimblebury

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN16947 RG78PN1047 RD368 SD2 ED14 SN167


Reg. District: Cannock Sub District: Cannock
Parish: Cannock Enum. District: 14
Address: Piggott St Wimblebury
County: Staffordshire
THACKER, Thomas Head Married M 41 1870 Coal Miner Hewer Hednesford Staffs
THACKER, Sarah Wife Married
20 years F 38 1873 Hednesford Staffs
THACKER, Thomas Son Single M 20 1891 Coal Miner Driver Hednesford Staffs
THACKER, Wilfred Son Single M 19 1892 Coal Miner Driver Hednesford Staffs
THACKER, George Son Single M 17 1894 Coal Miner Driver Hednesford Staffs
THACKER, John Son Single M 15 1896 Coal Miner Griper Hednesford Staffs
THACKER, Edward Son M 13 1898 Coal Miner Niper Hednesford Staffs
THACKER, Percy Son M 12 1899 Hednesford Staffs
THACKER, Walter Son M 9 1902 Hednesford Staffs
THACKER, Lizzie Daughter F 7 1904 Hednesford Staffs
THACKER, Minnie Daughter F 5 1906 Hednesford Staffs
THACKER, Lily Daughter F 3 1908 Hednesford Staffs
THACKER, Isiah Son M 0 (9 MONTHS) 1911 Hednesford Staffs


Maureen

1911 census with JWT father 1866 and JWT 1896 there is Doris Louisa daughter married to John Blakemore born 1882 Walsall Wood Staffs

John W Thacker marries in 1916 to Ann/Annie Blakemore born 1883 to Simeon Blakemore born 1858 Bilston Staffs ans Selina Thacker 1858.

Paul has this Selina Thacker and Simeon Blakemore in his tree.

So is this the JWT with wife Ann on military records,in which case he wouldn't have been married on records as he married 1916.

Maryb

It seems as though the JWT marrying Alice Turner are the wrong ones and Paul should send for marriage certificates.

Edit
Selina 1858 had brother Thomas Charles Willam thacker 184 he married Hannah holt and had Thomas Charles william Thacker 1870 who married Sarah Matilda Chapman and had John 1896.

So all the families are related its just a matter of finding the correct person John Thacker 1896 married.

Maryb and Gillian,
On his pension records-right at the bottom of the second or third page-doesn't that say wife-Mrs A Thacker-21 Old Buildings,etc?

Paul-the 1911 census details are from FMP.

Maureen

It looks as if Alice was alive and well up to 1970
Alice Thacker born 10/10/1893 died 1970 Mar Q Bucklow 10 a 550