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Marriage - Harold & Macdonald

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Julie Anne

Julie Anne Report 27 Dec 2009 20:26

Please can someone please help me find a marriage or any info on Charles Harold and Florence Agnes Harold. These are the parents of Eric Berkley Harold b.abt. 1888 unknown where born, possibly India ?. Eric married Margaret Russell in 1921 Lanark, SCT. His parents are named on the marriage cert as Charles Harold occup Government Auditor - deceased and Florence Agens Harold nee Macdonald - deceased. Nothing is known about Charles and Florence, so not sure how to find them. Would be greatful for any help.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 27 Dec 2009 20:31

Maybe Eric coming in to Britain?

He is British and is a Clerk.

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Mr E B Harold
Name: Mr E B Harold
Birth Date: abt 1888
Age: 22
Port of Departure: Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date: 29 Aug 1910
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Sydney, Melbourne, Albany, Durban and Cape Town
Ship Name: Suevic
Search Ship Database: View the 'Suevic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: White Star Line
Official Number: 113456

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Dec 2009 20:35

Eric Berkeley Harold Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: 22 DEC 1887

Christening: 14 MAR 1888 Secunderabad, Madras, Tamil Nadu, India
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Parents:
Father: Charles Harold Family
Mother: Florence Agnes


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Dec 2009 20:37

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Charles Frederick Harold Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: 26 DEC 1868 Rorkee, West Bengal

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Parents:
Father: Charles Harold Family
Mother: Mrs. Florence Agnes Harold

Julie Anne

Julie Anne Report 27 Dec 2009 20:45

Thankyou Ann, so Eric was born in India. Have you been able to locate his parents marriage ?, I wonder if they married in India ?. or ever left?. We would love to trace them and their ancestors, but dont know how to begin

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 27 Dec 2009 20:45

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Charles Frederick Harold
Name: Charles Frederick Harold
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 26 May 1920
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Marseilles, Valencia, Gibraltar
Ship Name: Massilia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Massilia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Anchor Line
Official Number: 115712

Travelling with Mary and making for number 9 Pall Mall.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Dec 2009 20:48

poss connection

James Harold Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 15 AUG 1871 Ambala, , Punjab, India

Christening:
Death: 1872

Burial:


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Parents:
Father: John Harold Family
Mother: Susan Cousins Gibson


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Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Dec 2009 20:51

Name: Charles Henry Hasler HAROLDEvent type: BiographyStart date: Start year: 1885End date: End year: 1938Biographical notes: Lt-Col, Army Med Service served in India & Mesopotamia; Who was Who III p.596Transcribed by: British LibraryIndia Office Records Reference:
Source name: Who was Who III p.596Source year: Source edition: Presidency:

http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/ got this off this site



AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Dec 2009 20:53

have no idea if the one above is connected

Julie Anne

Julie Anne Report 27 Dec 2009 20:57

Thanks everyone. I wonder if Florence Harold nee Macdonald was Scotthish ? and Charles Harold brittish ?

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Dec 2009 20:58

found this on google

PDF]Charles H. H. Harold, O.B.E., M.D., D.P.H. Lieut...
July 18 of Colonel Charles Harold, who succeeded the late Sir Alexander. Houston as Director ... logy, Northern Command, India. His last military post ...

www.jstor.org/stable/20300278 - Similar pages

http://www.jstor.org/stable/20300278

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 27 Dec 2009 20:59

Here is their marriage

http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/aps_person_search.php

Presidency of Marriage BENGAL
Marriage Year 1868
Husband First Names Charles
Husband Surname Harold
Wife First Names Florence A.
Wife Surname Macarthur
Prefix N1
Source Year 1868
Volume Number 123
Folio 99
LDS Film Reference 499029

It seems she was Macarthur rather than Macdonald?

This may be their first child

Entry from Transcription of Madras Baptism Indexes 1860-1871
Year 1869
Surname Harold
First names Charles
Volume 79
Page 219

who seems to be the one Ann of Green Gables found who would have been born in Dec 1868 and baptised in the new year.

Julie Anne

Julie Anne Report 27 Dec 2009 21:07

Thanks Ann,
It seems like the family goes quite a ways back in India. I have never searched India before.

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 27 Dec 2009 21:07

For births in India with father Charles Harold and mother Florence, 1865-1905, the IGI has

Birth/Christening, 1865 - 1905, India, Asia
Father: Charles Harold, Mother: Florence

1. Charles Frederick Harold - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 26 DEC 1868 [Roorkee, , West Bengal, India]

2. Edith Florence Harold - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 23 MAR 1870
3. Edith Florence Harold - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 DEC 1870 Roorkee, , West Bengal, India

4. Alice Mary [Harold] - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 08 APR 1879 India Office Ecclesiastical Returns-Bengal Presidency,,Misc, , , India

5. Austin Edward Harold - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 15 NOV 1872
6. Austin Edward Harold - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 FEB 1874 Simla-Calcutta, West Bengal, India

7. Frank Augustus Harold - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 10 FEB 1873
8. Frank Augustus Harold - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 FEB 1874 Simla-Calcutta, West Bengal, India

9. Eric Berkeley Harold - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 22 DEC 1887
10. Eric Berkeley Harold - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 14 MAR 1888 Secunderabad, Madras, Tamil Nadu, India

(the list includes both births and baptisms that is there is some duplication)

The father's name is given as Charles Childe Harold in some of those records and the mother as Florence Agnes.

Julie Anne

Julie Anne Report 27 Dec 2009 21:10

Wow thanks everyone, you are being very helpful

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 27 Dec 2009 21:12

Here is one son in the 1901 census

Name: Frank Augustus Harold
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: 2nd Officer
Gender: Male
Where born: Simla, India

Civil parish: Vessels
Town: Victoria Dock London
County/Island: Essex

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 27 Dec 2009 21:16

1911

Address:
35 Sutton Road Seaford

HAROLD, Austin Edward Boarder Married M 38 1873 Lieutenant Royal Indian Marine Simla India VIEW
HAROLD, Florence Wife Boader Married
2 years F 33 1878 Hurle Cheshire

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 27 Dec 2009 21:18

If you search at FIBIS just for the surname Harold the last item on the list of results has several births

Entry from Births 1873 Surname Harold
sex son
Gender m
Year 1873
month Feb
day 10
Exact Entry Feb 10th at Simla the wife of Mr C Harold Deputy Controller of Accounts Public Works Dept of a son
Year 1873
Date 19 Feb
Edition daily

That gives you Charles Harold's occupation.

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 27 Dec 2009 21:24

Son Frank married

Marriages Jun 1901
BEDWELL Alfred James Poplar 1c 1095
Butler Elizabeth Poplar 1c 1095
Ellis Rose Selina K Poplar 1c 1095
HAROLD Frank Augustus Poplar 1c 1095 <<<

but I don't see him in the 1911 census, also no Harold-Ellis or Harold-Butler births from 1911 on.

But this is probably a son

Births Jun 1902
HAROLD Frank Augustus West Ham 4a 307

Name: Frank A Harold
Death Registration Month/Year: 1959
Age at death (estimated): 57
Registration district: Fulham
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5c
Page: 362

Maybe we should not be assuming that you are not familiar with Eric's siblings?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 27 Dec 2009 21:25

On Scotlands people there is one death for a Charles Harold in 1904.
None for Florence Harold though.

Thats just going on his wife maybe being Scottish and they may have retired there as their son married there.