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Lost: Eliza and Austin Ambrose.

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Battenburg

Battenburg Report 31 Dec 2009 11:25

Mike.
You have to be 16 to join this site so if you are younger then dont advertise the fact.

Sadly this is not a cheap hobby. I personally have spent hundreds of £s buying certs to prove my findings

Having duplicates means you have posted more than one thread about the same person. It upsets members because others are searching for things already found or not as the cause may be

Hope this helps you

Ambrose9494

Ambrose9494 Report 31 Dec 2009 01:36

Technically. Buying it would be difficult. Why do you assume I'm old enough to even earn money to simply do that?

I had to basically beg to get membership to this.

What do you mean duplicates?

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 29 Dec 2009 21:30

If you buy Austin's death cert, you'll find out if his wife registered the event.

We have looked at all possible records for you - no more to look at.

And WHY have you "ruled out" the Willesden death?

'We' don't assume anything - you might, but that's not the way to research family history.

Why don't you take out Ancestry's 14-day free trial and look for the death yourself?

Ambrose9494

Ambrose9494 Report 29 Dec 2009 21:25

Already ruled that possibility out. Are there any deaths in Hants Gosport? She may have returned to family in her birthplace. I guess we still assume she died after him?

And we've definitely ruled out all deaths beforehand?

Places you'd find her, are probably: Damerham, Fordingbridge, Alderholt, Gosport and Salisbury.

I think those are the only options for place of death that are possible, or actually make sense.

Also, on a hunch. Did they have care homes in those days? In Willesden perhaps? Unlikely she was admitted there, but it is possible.

-Mike.

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 29 Dec 2009 19:40

The death Freewheel found in 1949 Willesden. Could she have been visiting family at the time.?
I say this because I found my grandmothers death in 1950 somewhere I didnt expect.

I recently found out from a cousin that she went to look after a sick relative and took ill and died

Ambrose9494

Ambrose9494 Report 29 Dec 2009 16:32

I'm not sure if they stayed married. I would expect so. But I can't say for certain.

She may have reverted to her maiden name of Colborne/Colbourne if they didn't stay married.

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 29 Dec 2009 16:23

You have missed the point I was making about her name......check again what I actually asked you............

Ambrose9494

Ambrose9494 Report 29 Dec 2009 16:11

Just found that Eliza was born 1862 she was born in. And that her P.O.B was Hants Gosport.

Ambrose9494

Ambrose9494 Report 29 Dec 2009 15:37

I'm also fairly sure she didn't remarry. I mean no offence to anybody, but the likelihood of getting married at 70 - 80 is pretty unlikely.

She could've moved in with her son, Sidney, though I'm not sure where he lived in the 1940's. I know he lived in Atworth until his death 1970 but I'm not sure when he moved there.

Ambrose9494

Ambrose9494 Report 29 Dec 2009 15:26

Ah, darn. My mistake.

George and Ann are Grandparents. Charles and Mary Ann are the parents.

Charles born 1821 and Mary Ann (nee Gauge) in 1823.

Sorry for the mix up. (Would've been a world record if that had been true though. :D)

-mike

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 28 Dec 2009 10:24

Something dosn`t add up here Mike.....

you posted on the last page.....


"Austin was born 1856 in Damerham, Wiltshire. Eliza was born 1861. Austin's father was George Ambrose born 1781 and his mother Ann born the same year"........... ?????????

So Ann gave birth age 75.........?????


Nicky

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 28 Dec 2009 10:03

Buy the death cert for Austin and see if the informant is Eliza Ann.

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 28 Dec 2009 09:30

To answer your question, Mike, I have Ancestry - and looked at every death for Eliza Ambrose apart from those which could not have been 'your' Eliza, due to YOB or second name/initial.

I didn't, however, have time to look for mistranscriptions - other calls on my time - so here is the one to which Ivy referred

Name: Eliza A Ambros
Death Registration Month/Year: 1949
Age at death (estimated): 87
Registration district: Willesden
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5f
Page: 257


I presume you are certain that she remained married to Austin and didn't have a change of surname?

Ambrose9494

Ambrose9494 Report 27 Dec 2009 23:45

None at all, but intriguing strategy. Thank you, Ivy.

Ivy

Ivy Report 27 Dec 2009 23:31

I wonder if we can assume that Austin died first, and Eliza then went to stay with relatives? If so, you could restrict the search on Ancestry to say 1953 +/- 10 years.

Since she was born around 1861 you could take the last two digits of year of each possible death registration (12 separate registrations for Eliza Ambr*s* before considering other misspellings etc), add on 40 and take away 2 (if you need to be that exact) - this quickly eliminates for instance "died 1951aged 75" - would expect nearer 90 years old). That really leaves just one in Willesden in 1949, age 87. Were there any relatives near there?

Ambrose9494

Ambrose9494 Report 27 Dec 2009 22:10

So have you checked all records 1911 - 1961? I've combed through 1911 - 1931 and have found a few Eliza's, none of which died in the Fordingbridge area.

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 27 Dec 2009 21:56

No, sorry............tried that already

Only one Elizabeth death in Wilts - 1965, aged 69.

No Eliza in Witls.

Ambrose9494

Ambrose9494 Report 27 Dec 2009 21:51

Are there any Eliza Ambrose's around 1860 at all in Salisbury? Might be listed as Elizabeth.

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 27 Dec 2009 21:49

Based purely on age at death.................this is the only one I can see

Frankly, it seems unlikely, both from location point of view, and the fact that no second name is lsted.

Name: Eliza Ambrose
Death Registration Month/Year: 1934
Age at death (estimated): 73
Registration district: Staines
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 21

Ambrose9494

Ambrose9494 Report 27 Dec 2009 21:41

I know, I know. *jumps up and down excitedly*

But a reply that quickly is phenominal!