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ann oliver nowhere in the 1871 census

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BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 6 Jan 2010 10:28

Smith connection???

Josiah Lane Oliver was given the address of 3 Browns Court on his baptism. Josiah Smith born 23rd Aug 1863 son of John and Elizabeth Smith!!!!!!!! was also given the same address and baptised on the same day as Josiah Oliver, John Smith was a Carman.


Think we need to trace the Smith family!!!!


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Jesiah Smith
Name: Jesiah Smith
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 30 Aug 1863
Father's Name: John Smith
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Smith
Parish: Saint Mary, Bryanston Square
Borough: Westminster
County: Middlesex




Dee xx

gypsydescendant

gypsydescendant Report 6 Jan 2010 10:21

Thanks guys I might be able to piece this togther now with this new info I will go to BMD and do some searching

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 6 Jan 2010 10:16

There maybe a connection here;


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Joseph William Oliver
Name: Joseph William Oliver
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 1 Dec 1861
Father's Name: Joseph Oliver
Mother's Name: Lane Oliver
Parish: Saint Mary, Bryanston Square
Borough: Westminster
County: Middlesex

Born sept 1858



London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Louisa Ann Oliver
Name: Louisa Ann Oliver
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 1 Dec 1861
Father's Name: Joseph Oliver
Mother's Name: Jane Oliver
Parish: Saint Mary, Bryanston Square
Borough: Westminster
County: Middlesex

Born Dec 1860




Dee x

gypsydescendant

gypsydescendant Report 6 Jan 2010 10:14

Is Bromley near Marylebone?

gypsydescendant

gypsydescendant Report 6 Jan 2010 10:12

The spelling on the birth cert must be wrong I have Oliver not Olivier

Choccy

Choccy Report 6 Jan 2010 10:10


Here's an Ann Oliver visiting with the Smith family -


1861 England Census
Name: Ann Oliver
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne

Civil parish: Bromley
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Smith 43
Margaret Smith 35
Margret Smith 12
Charles Smith 6
Ann Oliver 14
Elizth Tozey 18




Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 302; Folio: 195; Page: 19; GSU roll: 542610.







gypsydescendant

gypsydescendant Report 6 Jan 2010 10:10

Dee you have found the right Josiah I did not mention the Lane name because there is no father listed on his birth cert but when Josiah married twice it says his father was Josiah Lane, but I still cannot find any record of Ann

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 6 Jan 2010 10:01

Hi,

Could this be his baptism??

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Josiah Lane Olivier
Name: Josiah Lane Olivier
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 30 Aug 1863
Father's Name: Josiah Lane Olivier
Mother's Name: Ann Lane Olivier
Parish: Saint Mary, Bryanston Square
Borough: Westminster
County: Middlesex


Born 27th July 1863



Dee x

gypsydescendant

gypsydescendant Report 6 Jan 2010 09:50

I have looked in 3 sets of census records 1861 71 81 trying to find Ann Oliver I have the birth certificate of her son Josiah Oliver in 1863 Marylebonebut I cant seem to find her with him anywhere what makes matters worse is there is no father listed for Josiah on his birth cert only the mother Ann Oliver and informant Elizabeth Smith can anyone enlighten me where else I might look Please