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Angela

Angela Report 17 Jan 2010 21:25

can anyone help me find out about frederick moeller he was born in germany in 1853 on his children cenus it just says germany british subject on the 1901 any help would be great

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 17 Jan 2010 21:34

Hi,

What are the childrens names and years of birth?


Dee x

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 17 Jan 2010 21:35

Have you got this one too?

1881 England Census a
Name: Charles F. Mooler
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Frances
Gender: Male
Where born: Germany
Civil parish: Fazakerley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: Long Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Farmer And Butcher
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles F. Mooler 30
Frances Mooler 24 - Birkenhead
Charles H. Mooler 3 - Birkenhead
Louis Mooler 1 - Liverpool
Alfred Heenen 25 - visitor; gentleman; Germany
Minna Heenen 18 - visitor; London
Laurance Kelly 29 - indoor servant


???
Marriages Mar 1876
>>>Brandekamp Fanny Liverpool 8b 76
Brennon John Liverpool 8b 76
HIGGINS Julia Liverpool 8b 76
>>>MOELLER Charles Frederick Liverpool 8b 76

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 17 Jan 2010 21:51

For reference:

1901 England Census
Name: Frederick Moeller
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Frances
Gender: Male
Where born: Germany
Civil parish: Birkenhead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: 11 Clifton Rd

Occupation: Cattle Dealer

Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub-registration district: Tranmere
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 317
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick Moeller 40
Frances Moeller 45 - Birkenhead
Louis Moeller 21 - Cattle Dealer (Steersman????); Liverpool
Alice Moeller 19 - Liverpool
Minnie Moeller 16 - Birkenhead
Mary Callan 20 - servant

Angela

Angela Report 17 Jan 2010 21:54

charles frederick born 1877 alcie elizabeth born 1881 henry 1883 minnie 1885 all in birkenhead

Sue from Perth Oz

Sue from Perth Oz Report 17 Jan 2010 22:06

Need the childrens names to many possibilities

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 17 Jan 2010 22:07

Is this his marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1876 (>99%)
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Brandekamp Fanny Liverpool 8b 76
Brennon John Liverpool 8b 76
HIGGINS Julia Liverpool 8b 76
MOELLER Charles Frederick Liverpool 8b 76



If so it should hopefully tell you his fathers name.



Dee x

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Jan 2010 22:12

Friedrich Heinrich Joachim Moeller Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 10 APR 1853 Warnow,Schoenberg,Meckl Schw

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Joachim Christian Johann Moeller Family
Mother: Dorothea Friederike Regina Stade

Angela

Angela Report 17 Jan 2010 22:15

thankyou

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Jan 2010 22:17

Schönberger Land is an Amt in the district of Nordwestmecklenburg, in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Germany. The seat of the Amt is in Schönberg.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 17 Jan 2010 22:18

CARL FRIEDRICH MOELLER Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 01 SEP 1848

Christening: 03 SEP 1848 Steegen, Westpreussen, Preussen

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JACOB MOELLER Family
Mother: ERDMUTH KRUEGER

Angela

Angela Report 17 Jan 2010 22:19

thankyou so much i will have ago finding out

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 17 Jan 2010 22:20

I found this on Ancestry message board, but VERY old (1998), before most censuses were online. So I think there may be errors particularly for Charles Frederick's wife.

--- I am seeking info on a Charles Frederick Moeller who was living in Birkenhead, Cheshire about 1875-1920. His wife was Margaret ? He was a buyer, seller and breeder of prize shorthorn cattle. Also, his son, also Charles Frederick Moeller, born about 1877 in Birkenhead, married Hannah Jones in Bromborough, Cheshire in 1898. The name was slowly changed to Miller about 1900. ---

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 17 Jan 2010 22:23

Eldest son

1901 England Census
Name: Frederick Moeller
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Birkenhead
Ecclesiastical parish: Bidston St Oswald
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub-registration district: Tranmere
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 163
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick Moeller 23
Hannah Moeller 21
Frederick Moeller 1
Harry Moeller 3 months

Have you found Henry on any census?

Angela

Angela Report 17 Jan 2010 22:23

his wife was frances

Angela

Angela Report 17 Jan 2010 22:25

yes henry

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 17 Jan 2010 22:29

A little bit more information, same person, same year (1998)

---I am seeking information on the Miller family in the areas of Birkenhead, Great and Little Sutton, Capenhurst, Chester, and Bromborough area. My great-great grandfather Charles Frederick Miller (went as Fred Miller) was born circa 1850 in ?Germany. The original name was Moeller but this changed to Miller when they came to the UK. This man operated a large Shorthorn cattle breeding operation, supposedly
one of the most prominent buyer and sellers of the time in England and Argentina. His herd was called the Sutton Shorthorn Herd. The family home is listed as in Birkenhead and the farm listed as 6 miles from Chester, 9 from Birkenhead, 1 from Capenhurst and 1/2 a mile from Little Sutton Station. In 1898, his son (also Charles Frederick Miller born circa 1878) married a Hannah Jones (daughter of James Jones) in Bromborough. They (Charles and Hannah) went on to have at least 4 children--Charles (who emigrated to Argentina), Harry (my grandfather who emigrated to Canada), Minnie (who remained in England) and Frank (who emigrated to Australia.) They all left around 1920 or so. I would appreciate any information on the family, the cattle operation, the farm and research in general in this area. ---

Liz 47

Liz 47 Report 17 Jan 2010 22:31

1911 census - address transcription
Address: 11 Clifton Road Tranmere

Hope this is of some help, on the original image they state they had a child who died.
Liz
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306 MILLER, Frederick Head Married M 60 1851 Exporter Of Live Stock Germany Rostork VIEW
306 MILLER, Frances Wife Married
35 years F 55 1856 Cheshire Birkenhead VIEW
306 HEATH, Rebecca Servant Single F 26 1885 General Servant Domestic Cheshire Birkenhead VIEW
306 WHITEHOUSE, Annie Nurse Widdow F 60 1851 Sick Nurse Berks Windsor VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22004 Reference:
RG14PN22004 RG78PN1309 RD452 SD2 ED1 SN306

Registration District:
Birkenhead Sub District:
Tranmere Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Birkenhead

Address:
11 Clifton Road Tranmere County:
Cheshire


Ozibird

Ozibird Report 17 Jan 2010 22:31

Angela, it would be a little more helpful if you could expand your answers.

What does "yes henry" mean? Yes, you have found him on a census? If so, which one?

Also a comment on what has been found already would let us know if we're going down the right track.

Thanks, Ozi

Angela

Angela Report 17 Jan 2010 22:33

thankyou it was on 1901 cenus