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He must be at sea at the time.

Rose

why isn't William on any of the older Census's?

Mick

i was hoping for something a bit more dramatic than someone couldnt read it properly. Oh well

The image is very faint. The transcriber has put down Ware.

Rose

WOW. What does that mean? why would it say ware, and not ward?

Found them transcribed as Ware in 1851:

1851 England Census
about Joseph Ware
Name: Joseph Ware
Age: 10 Mo
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town Lower
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 124
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Ware 34
Mary A Ware 27
Joseph Ware 18 Mo
Esther Ware 6 Mo

Rose

Feel certain that's your family but I can't find them in 1861.

Rose

you are blowing my mind with all this info. Thank you . It is taking my mind off my toothache.cheers

Mick

cheers dea

that solves that issue. Thank you. My dad was born in 19 springfield place in 1940, thanks for that info too

Mick

Here's that family in 1871:

1871 England Census
about Joseph Ward
Name: Joseph Ward
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Poplar All Saints
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household schedule number: 227
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Ward 53 Dealer in Birds
Mary Ward 46
Joseph John Ward 21
Ether Ward 20
Sarah Ward 16
Anna Ward 11
Mary Ann Ward 9
Robert Ward 5


Rose

Thanks Dea.

Rose

Re Sarah's age on 1911.

This has been mistranscribed - the image actually says she is 56 not 50 !

1911 Address:
19 Springfield Place, Cardiff

WARD, William Husband Married M 58 1853 Ship Steward London
WARD, Sarah Ann Wife Married 10 years F 50 1861 Home Work London **Image says she is 56 !!!
WARD, John H Son Single M 26 1885 Furniture Packer London
WARD, Amelia C Daughter Single F 21 1890 Laundry Maid London
WARD, William J Son Single M 19 1892 Car Cleaner Cardiff

What puzzles me though is that it says they have been married for 10 years ???


Dea x

NB** - I'm also 'fairly sure' that Williams age says 53 not 58 ?

Dea x

Most of this is from Ancestry.

Rose

I'm puzzled by the fact that on the 1891 census , Sarah is 36 (born 1855), in the 1901 census she is 46 (again born 1855), but on the 1911 census she is 50 (born 1860). How can there be a difference of 5 years?

Mick

where do you get this sort of info from? i use census's and electoral registers and BMD certs, but am amazed where people find info from.

Mick

This is interesting:

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Mary WARD Head W Female 54 Poplar, Middlesex, England Naturalist
Joseph WARD Son U Male 31 Mile End, Middlesex, England Naturalist (Animal Bird Presc)
Esther WARD Daur U Female 25 Mile End, Middlesex, England Dressmaker
Sarah DALL Daur M Female 24 Poplar, Middlesex, England Mariners Wife
Annie WARD Daur U Female 22 Poplar, Middlesex, England
Mary WARD Daur Female 11 Poplar, Middlesex, England Scholar
Robert WARD Son Male 15 Poplar, Middlesex, England Scholar
Harold DALL Gd Son Male 2 m Poplar, Middlesex, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 194 East India Rd
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341114
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0509 / 45
Page Number 37

Rose

Thank you for all your help and advice

Mick

1911 is here:

http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx

I don't have a subscription but there might be a few people looking in who can tell us where he was born.

Rose

sorry for sounding so naive, but where do i get the 1911 census from . I can only see upto 1901 . do i have to be a gold member to get access to 1911?

Mick

I have the 1891 and 1901 census, he is not mentioned on either , but on the 1901 census next to his wifes ( sarah) name , it says "husband at sea"

Mick