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I'm going nuts!

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Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 1 Feb 2010 21:08

Just found a wonderful clear entry for him applying for a Passport on 13th August, 1851!

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 1 Feb 2010 19:15

Here he is in 1841, at BRASENOSE College [ not Brazen Nose!!!]:
Name: John Edmund Booth
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Male

Civil parish: Brazen Nose College
Hundred: Oxford
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Oxford


And here he is in 1851:
1851 Census: taken on Sunday, 30th March 1851
Source: official Census records.
Living at: Broughton Lane, Broughton, Salford, Lancs.
Ann McClure, Head, Widow, 72, Annuitant, born ?Halton?,
Lancashire.
Mary McClure, Daughter, Unmarried, 36, born Leigh, Lancs.
Hannah McClure, Daughter, Unmarried, 34, born Leigh, Lancs.
Eliza McClure, Daughter, Unmarried, 27, born Leigh, Lancs.
Maria McClure, Daughter, Unmarried, 19, born Leigh, Lancs.
Revd. J.E. Booth, Lodger, Unmarried, 30, Incumbent St. Stephens, born Leigh, Lancs.
John Adderley, Lodger, Unmarried, 21, Warehouseman, born
N.K. [Not Known].
[Assistance from eagle-eyed researcher on Genes Reunited found this ā€“ I had to ask for help because the transcriber from the original records had misread his first initial to be an ā€˜Iā€™, and I was getting nowhere.]

So, as you can see, GR is always at my rescue!

Thanks again to one and all.

Now, can we just find Elizabeth Booth's death and possibly a baby???

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 1 Feb 2010 18:53

Sharon, you are a genius! BIG thank you.

I am absolutely amazed that this couple sailed all the way to Russia [where her papa was born] for their marriage. Especially since in the March census of their marriage year, they are still very much in the UK. What a wonderful story lies behind this one - we shall never know.

Rose, why do you not think she was born a Tunder?

Now, if only I could find her death . . .

Just about to put a second post on re census entries for him.

SharoninGreece

SharoninGreece Report 1 Feb 2010 08:57

Nicola,

I can not see JEB in 1851. Found Elizabeth.

I then found a Rev. John Edmund Booth in 1861 and then again in 1871 with Edith Elizabeth, so must be same guy.

I can not find him in 1841 or in 1851.

Sharon

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 1 Feb 2010 08:24

She also wasn't born a Tunder:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Frederick Samuel Tunder
Name: Frederick Samuel Tunder
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Lewis
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 3 Jan 1828
Parish: St George the Martyr, Queen Square
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden

Rose

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 1 Feb 2010 08:17

Nice one Sharon!

SharoninGreece

SharoninGreece Report 1 Feb 2010 07:39

Found this record on family search.
Husband
JOHN EDMUND BOOTH Pedigree

Birth:
Christening:
Marriage: 20 SEP 1851 British Chaplaincy, Saint Petersburg, Russia, Ussr
Death:
Burial:


Wife
ELIZABETH TUNDER Pedigree

Birth:
Christening:
Marriage: 20 SEP 1851 British Chaplaincy, Saint Petersburg, Russia, Ussr
Death:
Burial:

Sharon

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 31 Jan 2010 23:49

Interesting that Elizabeth's birth age in 1851 is 26 (est born 1825) as her 'parents' married in 1828

Frederick Samuel Tunder 3 Jan 1828 Mary Ann Lewis St George the Martyr, Queen Square

(From the London Metropolitan Archives at Ancestry)

Her relationship to them in the 1851 isn't given as they were all down as visitors though it does say that she was unmarried on the image.

Julie

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 31 Jan 2010 23:06

Oooh dear, I can see that this is going to be a tricky one.

With a surname like TUNDER, you would think that it might narrow it down a bit - but no!

And to then become Elizabeth Booth is annoyingly 'common'. It's really the marriage I need first.

I expect the poor dear died in childbirth . . .

Anyone else out there? I may not get back to this tonight as need a relatively early night.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 31 Jan 2010 22:50

I see Elizabeth was born 1825 in London. As you say, if they married it was 1851-1861. Not much chance for another marriage really!
jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 31 Jan 2010 22:45

Going nuts too! Any chance she maybe married before?
Jan

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 31 Jan 2010 22:30

PLEASE can someone kind with eagle eyes and the experience that I obviously do not have find the following marriage for me:-

JOHN EDMUND BOOTH to ELIZABETH TUNDER
in September, 1851.

You will find them both living in the Broughton area of Manchester. He is incumbent at St. Stephen's, Salford and she is the daughter of Frederick S. Tunder of St. Petersburg, Russia.

This marriage is recorded in the Admissions Register of Manchester Grammar School where JEB was a Scholar, as was his father Ebenezer Booth before him.

I guess that the marriage should be recorded in the general area that they are both living in??

Poor old Elizabeth died and when JEB went on to marry Edith Elizabeth Law in 1862 [who is my relation], he is stated as a Widow on the Marriage Certificate.

I also cannot find the death of Elizabeth Booth, nee Tunder. This must have occurred between September 1851 and the next census entry for him in 1861 where he is stated as a Widower.

I have been at this search for a long time and now have to turn to the experts, please!

Many thanks.