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JANEY, or anyone .Can you find Florence please?

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JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 10 Feb 2010 19:55

Good one Fanny.

Births Jun 1865
VAUGHAN Catharine Frances Ross 6a 419

St Weonards is in Ross district.

... Heh, just like Peterstow is. ;)

Choccy

Choccy Report 10 Feb 2010 19:54



Births Jun 1865 (>99%)
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VAUGHAN Catharine Frances Ross 6a 419



Peterstow is in Ross district





Births Jun 1863 (>99%)
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VAUGHAN Beatrice Pauline Alexandra Ross 6a 443






Choccy

Choccy Report 10 Feb 2010 19:53




1881 England Census
Name: Catherine Vaughan
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Pupil
Gender: Female
Where born: Peterstone, Hereford, England

Civil parish: Kensington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: Holland Rd 94
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 20a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emily Bishop 59
Edith E. Bishop 29
Reginald D. Bishop 26
Mary Bishop 42
Alethea Groom 65
Mary C. Groom 63
Amelia Boyes 23
Sarah M. Sayer 28
Elizabeth Hebditch 22
Catherine Shayles 22
Hannah Nockels 18
Ellen Coulson 26
Laura M. Parry 17
Annie C. Fairnlough 20
Mary Ive 19
Louisa A. Rolfe 18
Margaretta Hughes 17
Alice A. Baly 16
Catherine Vaughan 16 *****************
Kate N. Turney 16
Emma G. Neave 16
Sarah E. Noble 16
Cathrine Peach 15
Mary Mawson 15
Edith J. Baily 14
Fanny Peach 14
Gertrude J. Draper 13
Ethel M. Millet 13
Edith Wood 13
Florna M.B. Manson 12
Jenny E. Frain 12
Harry Lampson 6




Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 28; Folio: 16; Page: 18; GSU roll: 1341006.





FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 10 Feb 2010 19:41

Not Florence but maybe..

Catherine before marriage?
1871
Address:
Caldicoot Farm, St Weonard

STONE, John T Head M 26 1845 Herefordshire
STONE, Susan Sister F 28 1843 Herefordshire
STONE, Mary Sister F 24 1847 Herefordshire
VAUGHAN, Beatrice T A Niece F 7 1864 Herefordshire
VAUGHAN, Catharine F Niece F 6 1865 Herefordshire
BEAVAN, William Servant M 22 1849 Herefordshire

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 10 Feb 2010 19:34

Thank you for sticking with this.....

Have to leave for a short while.... Back soon.

Gwyn

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 10 Feb 2010 19:31

1911

SAUNDERS FLORENCE M 1885 26 Newtown Montgomeryshire
-- born in Herefordshire

The only Florence near her age, born in Herefordshire, in Montgomeryshire. Searchd in case she stayed.

The age is off of course.

I can't see the details, but from doing wild card searches -- for surnames *A*, *E*, etc. -- the household is full of young unrelated women in their 20s mostly.

... She's probably Florence Margaret reg JunQ 1885, Hereford ... herrings ...

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 10 Feb 2010 19:28

Sorry
Hello Madmeg.

I don't have the marriage cert. of Edward and Catherine, but have viewed the register.
I have asked for a lookup from someone who is soon visiting the Record Office, because I'm beginning to doubt myself.

Edward was the son of Herbert SKERRETT and Elizabeth (WOOD)...from viewed baptism register.
I can track the Skerretts back in the same village to mid 1770s , so far.

Catherine's father I have as Edward a labourer, but I can't track her back at all.
I don't even know where she was born.

Gwyn

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 10 Feb 2010 19:21

That Herbert was in Wales in 1891.
He was the son of Edward and Catherine, so brother to the missing Florence.

Does it say born in Ullingsworth.
Should be Ullingswick, where he was baptised 13 Sept 1885.
I don't have cert., but have him probably marrying Alice Emma NASH in 1908.

Gwyn

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 10 Feb 2010 19:18

Have you got the marriage cert of Edward and Catherine? Who are their fathers?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 10 Feb 2010 19:13

Taking another tack -- the only Skerrett in 1911 born in Ullingsworth is

SKERRETT HERBERT M 1887 24 Tewkesbury Gloucestershire
living with Alice Emma Skerrett, aged 22, and Violet Skerrett, 6 months.

There are a half dozen Florences born in Bromyard 1880-1884, none in Ullingsworth ...

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 10 Feb 2010 19:09

Sorry !

I hadn't considered Frances Ruth, probably because I think of her as 'Ruth'

Ullingswick is such a small place, even today.
To give you some idea of size I can tell you that the original marriage register started 1837 was handed into the Record Office in 2004.
It was still only half full.

Not that that helps to find Florence,........

Gwyn

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 10 Feb 2010 19:04

Aargh. I was still hunting around for her.

You are a wet blanket, Gwyn. But do tell us ahead of time whom you've ruled out, if you have!

I see Fanny's on teh case now. ;)

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 10 Feb 2010 19:00

Frances Ruth is still in Ullingswick in 1901.
She is shown as Ruth and is the daughter of Herbert and Elizabeth.

She married as Ruth in 1904 in Pontypridd, then again as Frances Ruth HARGEAVES in 1907
I had already been told by a living distant relative that 'Ruth married Jack DEMAID'.

Gwyn

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 10 Feb 2010 18:53


Interesting...../)

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 10 Feb 2010 18:48

Hm -- who's this then??

Births Dec 1881
SKERRETT Frances Ruth Bromyard 6a 513


Exactly the right time to be Florence ...

... And she neither married nor died ...

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 10 Feb 2010 18:38

Ah yes - Edwin/Edward/Edmund - interchangeable all the time. In the case of my own grfather in fact. ;)

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 10 Feb 2010 18:37

1861

Civil parish: Ullingswick
James Wood 46
Ann Wood 43
Elizabeth Skerrett 21 - daughter >> married
Richard A Wood 18
Amelia Bowers 14
William Skerrett 14 - servant

?

Was Edward Elizabeth's son then?

Just looking for any other possible surname. Lots of times people used a surname in life and in censuses, but did official things like get married in their official names.


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Marriages Jun 1859
Bright Sarah Leominster 6a 976
PRICE Thomas Leominster 6a 976
? Skerrett Herbert Leominster 6a 976
Walton Samuel Leominster 6a 976
? Wood Elizabeth Leominster 6a 976


So he seems to be settled as a Skerrett.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 10 Feb 2010 18:34

A double posting...

There are other examples of this extended family registering a child in one name, then calling it another.
Edward Henry (1861) had a brother Robert Allen ( from gravestone ) but who was registered Richard....

Gwyn

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 10 Feb 2010 18:34

I think this is possibly Edward.., especially as it has Henry with it.
Just about all the SKERRETTs in that area are linked at that time and I can't account for an Edwin.
An Edward Henry Skerrett was baptised 26 May 1861.

Births Jun 1861

SKERRETT Edwin Henry ..Bromyard 6a 497

Gwyn

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 10 Feb 2010 18:26

I'll bet you don't have the marriage certificate?

Ah - but her name on the birth cert was Vaughan, so there goes the previous marriage theory ...

His birth was registered as Wood? Because I don't see one as Skerrett.


We likes to see these things - and it's harder to find 'em without knowing the transcriptions.


1871

Name: Edward H Sherrett
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Ullingswick, Herefordshire, England
Civil parish: Ullingswick

James Wood 56
Anne Wood 61
Edward H Sherrett 10
John Turner 28