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Birth of Benjamin Pitt !!!

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Carol

Carol Report 19 Feb 2010 21:12

I am pulling my hair out! I have a marriage cert for my gt. grandfather Benjamin Pitt aged 31years at marriage to Hagar Dean on the 17. 9. 1894 - making his birth year 1863..

If given ages are not 'gospe'l (their maths may be as bad as mine!) then could Benjamin Pitts parents be Benjamin and Martha Pitt on the 1861 census as 6mths old ??

Other trees are giving his birth year as April 1862 to a James Pitt and Jemina Leach - I cannot find a marriage or records on the census for these two!

My concern is in the trans-scriptions I have another marriage cert for Benjamins, only daughter, Martha - because she married a John Moore (his father was William Moore) the cert. writer wrote 'Benjamin Moore' as her father, instead of Benjamin Pitt!!

I am fairly new to this and not sure how inaccruate/ accruate the records are!? -
Regards
'drowning in paper'! carol

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Feb 2010 21:29

where was he born?

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Feb 2010 21:32

found this

HAGAR DEAN Pedigree
Female
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 22 OCT 1819 Zion Methodist New Connexion, Ovenden, Yorkshire, England
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Parents:
Father: BOAS DEAN Family
Mother: HANNAH
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Carol

Carol Report 19 Feb 2010 21:54

sorry, I did not give full info

Hagar Dean (born 5 march 1854 in the county of Stafford, England) was name on marriage cert
(she was maried before to John Dean)
her maiden name was Danks - father Soloman Danks

It is Benjamin Pitt (her second husband) my gt grandfather I am having problems with!

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Feb 2010 22:16

1881 - for the record

Solomon DANKS Head M Male 56 Dudley, Worcester, England Engine Driver
Eliza DANKS Wife M Female 48 Kingstone, Hereford, England
Samuel R. DANKS Son M Male 20 (For), United States Engine Driver
Sarah DANKS Daur In Law M Female 22 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
John H. DANKS Son Male 14 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Laborer At Colliery
Eliza DANKS Daur Female 12 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Mary DANKS Daur Female 7 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Roland WORTON Grandson Male 4 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 2 Dog Lane
Census Place Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Family History Library Film 1341685
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2860 / 44
Page Number 32

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Feb 2010 22:17


Solomon Danks Pedigree
Male Family
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Parents:
Father: Edward Danks Family
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Marriages:
Spouse: Eliza Mackay Family
Marriage: 04 JUL 1847 St Edmund'S, Dudley, Worcester, England

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Feb 2010 22:18

1881

David DANKS Head M Male 42 Dudley Wood, Worcester, England Banksman
Ann DANKS Wife M Female 39 Dudley Wood, Worcester, England
Hagar DANKS Daur U Female 22 Dudley Wood, Worcester, England Chain Maker
Edward DANKS Son U Male 19 Dudley Wood, Worcester, England Chain Maker
Mary DANKS Daur U Female 17 Dudley Wood, Worcester, England Chain Maker
Joseph DANKS Son Male 15 Dudley Wood, Worcester, England Chain Maker
Sarah DANKS Daur Female 13 Dudley Wood, Worcester, England Scholar
Ruth DANKS Daur Female 11 Dudley Wood, Worcester, England Scholar
Elijah DANKS Son Male 8 Dudley Wood, Worcester, England Scholar
Martha DANKS Daur Female 5 Dudley Wood, Worcester, England Scholar
William DANKS Son Male 5 Dudley Wood, Worcester, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling Mushroom Green
Census Place Dudley, Worcester, England
Family History Library Film 1341691
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2882 / 144
Page Number 58

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Feb 2010 22:19

Hagar Danks Compact Disc #145 Pin #895491 Pedigree
Sex: F

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Event(s)
Birth: 1860

Netherton, Worcestershire, England

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Parents
Father: David Danks Disc #145 Pin #895485
Mother: Ann Baugh Disc #145 Pin #894740

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Thomas Barnsley Nock Disc #145 Pin #895530
Marriage: 1883

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Feb 2010 22:20

Hagar Danks Pedigree
Female
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Event(s):
Birth: About 1822 Of Netherton, , Worcester, England
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Parents:
Father: Edward Danks Family
Mother: Mary Dunn

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Feb 2010 22:22

Husband's Name
Benjamin PITT (AFN:BNLN-X5) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1825 Place:


Wife's Name
Martha SPOONER (AFN:BNLN-ZB) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1829 Place:

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Children

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1. Sex Name
F Mary Ann PITT (AFN:2829-17) Pedigree

Born: 27 Aug 1851 Place:
Died: 5 Jun 1899 Place: Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England

Carol

Carol Report 19 Feb 2010 22:23

thankyou
- yes that is her - I have info for her family

her second marriage to Benjamin Pitt on 17th sept. 1894
states his father as James Pitt (deceased) and his age as 31 years giving a birth year as 1863 - this is where my problems start!!

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Feb 2010 22:23

1881

Benjamin PITT Head M Male 30 West Bromwich, Stafford, England Puddler In Ironworks
Jane PITT Wife M Female 27 West Bromwich, Stafford, England
Alfred PITT Son Male 3 West Bromwich, Stafford, England
Sarah Jane PITT Daur Female 1 West Bromwich, Stafford, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 27 Pudding Bag St Private House
Census Place West Bromwich, Stafford, England
Family History Library Film 1341683
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2849 / 9
Page Number 11

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Feb 2010 22:25

1881 - next door to the previous one

Sussanna PITT Head W Female 37 West Bromwich, Stafford, England Laundress
Benjamin PITT Son U Male 14 West Bromwich, Stafford, England Coal Miner
Sarah PITT Daug U Female 11 West Bromwich, Stafford, England Scholar
Thomas PITT Son U Male 8 West Bromwich, Stafford, England Scholar
Samuel PITT Son U Male 6 Tipton, Stafford, England Scholar
Sussanna PITT Daug U Female 3 West Bromwich, Stafford, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 26 Pudding Bag St Private House
Census Place West Bromwich, Stafford, England
Family History Library Film 1341683
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2849 / 5
Page Number 3

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Feb 2010 22:27

1861 dob here on the 1881 census

Martha PITT Head W Female 60 Wednesbury, Stafford, England
Benjamin PITT Son U Male 20 Tipton, Stafford, England Coal Miner
Elizabeth WEBB Daur M Female 27 West Bromwich, Stafford, England
David WEBB Son In Law Male 26 Tipton, Stafford, England Forge Stoker
Benjamin WEBB Son Male 5 Sedgley, Stafford, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 7 Howls Row
Census Place Sedgley, Stafford, England
Family History Library Film 1341688
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2871 / 6
Page Number 5

Carol

Carol Report 19 Feb 2010 22:27

added
I do know hagar and Benjamin had only one child between them
- Martha Edith, born 27th feb. 1896 in netherton - died 9 March 1965

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Feb 2010 22:28

1881 - a lot of Benjamin Pitt's in Stafford!!

James PITT Head M Male 38 Wednesbury, Stafford, England Coal Miner
Catherine PITT Wife M Female 32 Princes End Coal Miner
Martha PITT Dau Female 10 Princes End Coal Miner
James PITT Son Male 8 Princes End Coal Miner
Catherine PITT Dau Female 6 Princes End Coal Miner
Eliza PITT Dau Female 4 Princes End Coal Miner
Julia PITT Dau Female 2 Burntwood, Stafford, England Coal Miner
Benjamin PITT Son Male 4 m Burntwood, Stafford, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Chase Terrace Cross St
Census Place Burntwood Edial & Woodhouses, Stafford, England
Family History Library Film 1341664
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2774 / 19
Page Number 32

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Feb 2010 22:29

Benjamin Pitt Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 12 JUN 1682 Pattingham, Stafford, England
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Parents:
Father: William Pitt Family
Mother: Judith

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Feb 2010 22:30

Benjamin PITT Compact Disc #55 Pin #420833 (AFN: JVPR-1T) Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: 22 Feb 1731/32

Wolverhampton, Staffs., England

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Parents
Father: William PITT Disc #55 Pin #420840
Mother: Lydia PARKS Disc #55 Pin #420841

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Ann SMITH Disc #55 Pin #420834
Marriage: 7 Mar 1753
Wolverhampton, Staffs., England

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 19 Feb 2010 22:34

What was his fathers name and occupation on the marriage cert please?

He did like to be exact on his family relations didnt he?

1901

Address:
Double Row, Dudley (Worcs), Netherton

PITT, Benjamin Head Married M 40 1861 Labourer In Clay Fields
Dudley
Worcestershire
PITT, Hagar Wife Married F 48 1853
Old Hill
Staffordshire
DEAN, Sarah Step Daughter Single F 24 1877
Dudley
Worcestershire
DEAN, Minnie Step Daughter Single F 20 1881 Chain Maker
Dudley
Worcestershire
DEAN, Eliza Step Daughter Single F 18 1883 Chain Maker
Dudley
Worcestershire
DEAN, Florrie Step Daughter Single F 16 1885 Chain Maker
Dudley
Worcestershire
DEAN, Matilda Step Daughter Single F 15 1886 Chain Maker
Dudley
Worcestershire
DEAN, John Step Son Single M 11 1890
Dudley
Worcestershire
DEAN, Lilian May Step Daughter Single F 9 1892
Dudley
Worcestershire
PITT, Martha Daughter Single F 5 1896
Dudley
Worcestershire
DEAN, John William Son Single M 4 1897 Illegitimate Children of Sarah Dean
Dudley
Worcestershire
DEAN, James Single M 0 (8 MOS) 1901
Dudley
Worcestershire


AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Feb 2010 22:42

one family of Danks which I posted were chainmakers too