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could any body please help me im trying to find my g grandads information i have found him in the 1891 census as a widow but am unable to find him before or after this and unable to find his wife i have copyed the information tht i have and hope this will help KAVENEY, James Head Widower M 40 1851 Coal Miner
Ireland VIEW
KAVENEY, Mary Daughter Single F 16 1875
Chesterfield
Derbyshire VIEW
KAVENEY, Kate Daughter F 14 1877
Chesterfield
Derbyshire VIEW
KAVENEY, Annie Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar
Staveley
Derbyshire VIEW
i do know that annie kaveney married walter henson 1n1912
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thank you for ur help

Sarah,

take a look at the 1871 Chesterfield: James Kavenny? this may be your man.

Annx

wht site do i need to go to thank you sharon

Hi possible 1901 for Annie
1901 census

Address 9 Packers Row Three Horse Shoe
Civil Parish Chesterfield
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet Chesterfield
Ecclesiastical Parish Chesterfield St Marys & A S With Calow
Parliamentary Borough or Division Chesterfield
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Chesterfield
Administrative County Derby
Householder 1
Name Annie Kavenny
Relation to Head of Family Servant
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 17
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Gen Servant Domestic
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Barrowhill
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Charles North
Relation to Head of Family Visitor
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 57
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Living On Own Means
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Chesterfield
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Rebecca Pinder
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Widow
Age Last Birthday 65
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation License Victualler
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Staveley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Mary Wood
Relation to Head of Family Servant
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 23
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Gen Servant Domestic
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Mansfield
Language
Infirmity

Hi Sharon,

sorry thought you had access, i use Find My Past

1871 census

High Street Long Court Yard Chesterfield, there is a James(1849 )and John (1847) KAVENNY ,both boarders and both miners born Ireland.

Can someone copy and paste the above for Sharon? I'm usless!

Ann

its just so confusing as to where he was befor 1891 carnt find his wife daughers ect i have since been able to fine a death for 1892 aged 42 but other than that nothink i have found a marrage for mary kaveney to a silverton but nothing more on any body else annie could of been a border befor marrinig my grandad but how would i know if this is the right lady im so greatfull for all the help

Hi Sharon,

Did a search for kaveney female deaths between 1883/1891 and found the following:

ELLEN Kaveney aged 0 years June Quareter 1886
ELLEN Kaveney aged 30 years June Quarter 1886

Maybe mother & daughter, childbirth deaths?

I then did a search on any Ellen 1856 in Chesterfield on the 1881 census.

10 New Angel Yard Chesterfield

James COONEY 1851 coal miner born Ireland
Ellen COONEY 1857 wife born Chesterfield
Mary COONEY 1875 daur born Chesterfield
Catherine COONEY 1877 daur born Chesterfield
Andrew COONEY 1818 Father widower gardner born Ireland
Annie Cassidy 1865 sister-in-law childrens nurse born Chesterfield
Patrick Cassidy 1861 brother-in-law miner Chesterfield

Looking at the actual image, the spelling looks like CANVEY!

What do you think?

Annx

Marriage Chesterfield Dec Quarter 1873 ....ref 7b 1307

Ellen CASSIDY & James CAVENEY

Annx

Ann, I would gladly post the census for 1871 in Chesterfield, but I can't find it. Do you have the reference numbers?

Hiya madmeg,

Thats kind of you, my heads gone tonight with this one..I have been like a dog with a bone! Tired eyes now, I will go back AND SEE IF I CAN PICK IT UP AGAIN

Annx

FMP (Not found on Ancestry yet!)

census search results 1871 address search redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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WARD, Edward Head M 53 1818 Ireland VIEW
WARD, Ellen Wife F 56 1815 Ireland VIEW
KAVENNY, James Boarder M 22 1849 Ireland VIEW
KAVENNY, John Boarder M 24 1847 Ireland VIEW
LOCKLIN, Michael Boarder M 57 1814 Ireland VIEW

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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
3610 Folio:
114 Page:
23

Registration District:
Chesterfield Sub District:
Chesterfield EnumerationDistrict:
12 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Chesterfield Municipal Borough:
Chesterfield Address:
High Street Long Court Yard, Chesterfield County:
Derbyshire

Why can't I find it on Ancestry?

Yep........thats them, I hope Sharon tunes in tomorrow and that is the family on the 1881............Thankyou!!

Annx

1881 that Ann has found is DEFINITELY Cavney. (Not even Canvey as Ann suggested - slip of the finger Ann?).

Thanks MM! Yes by then a few fingers were slipping. Did you locate them on ancestry in the end?

Annx

Ancestry has transcribed them as Karenny.

So we have James in 1871, 81 and 91, and his likely marriage.

No sign yet in 1861, but maybe still in Ireland.

Not looked in 1901. Off to eat!

Well that takes the biscuit! No wonder we cant find people we know should be there!

Annx

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about James Kaveney
Name: James Kaveney
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 41
District: Chesterfield
County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 428 (click to see others on page)

To answer your question was your grandma Annie the servant in 1891, well there's nothing you can do to prove it, other than look for another Annie in 1881 (I looked, can't see anything), in 1901, or a marriage to someone other than your grandad.

ann and all others thank you so much for the information and all your hard work im sorry i have not been avalible as i have been wrking hard doing 14and half hour shifts i know this may be a relevent but just wanted you all to know i am very greatful and wasnt egnoring you
thank you sharon
ps ill take a look into all that sounds like the right person i am going to try and get the birth certificate as well for annie hopefully this will mean all yoru hard work has payed off